Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
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Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
26-04-2016 4:14 PM
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now I have your attention.. ! ! !..
What do the "Grumpy Old Gits" ( those who don`t like "change for change sake" under the guise of "improvement") think of the conglomeration of the amalgamated three boards Windows Software Linux Software and Tech stuff
.... Do you feel this has been a retro move that has helped to make the forum less customer orientated ? or do you think that having all that stuff jumbled up is a good idea..
From time to time, Newspapers try to re-invent themselves in the name of "progress" or "improved" but they still keep to the same basic layout... News stories on the front page... gossip, cookery, fashion, finance etc., inside, with a letters page, and the sport is always on the back couple of pages... so that the readers can quickly find the articles or "news" they WANT TO READ without having to trawl through the rest of the paper..
e.g Sports fans... they know where to find the results,... and quite a lot of them don`t even bother with the front page..
News fans... again... many don`t even bother with the sports pages.. and those who write/read the letters pages , do so for entertainment.
Imagine your favourite paper doing what Plusnet has done... mixed it all together... so that sports fans have to trawl through all the news and letters and cooking and fashion and fiancial reports before eventually "coming across by accident" their home team footy results ......and then trying to find a report on some other game, that would be hidden amongst all the other comment, cookery, finance and news, etc..
Even the Daily Mail, isn`t that daft..
By amalgamating the three boards into one... ( a pathetic reason given somewhere else, was that, there were not enough posts in the other two to warrant them being a separate board)...
aw c`mon... they were separate before this new forum, and worked well, to everyone`s advantage...
to quote an old saying... " If it ain`t broke..... don`t fix it" ..
Bring back the three separate boards.. and let us all enjoy our own Forum boards .. Windows, Linux, or Techy stuff, without swimming around in treacle to find stuff..
Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
26-04-2016 5:33 PM
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As a Grumpy old Git i agree better off split up
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Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
26-04-2016 5:44 PM
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Request was already made here shutter, your memory is getting bad
Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
26-04-2016 5:59 PM - edited 26-04-2016 6:02 PM
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Yeah... that was 3 weeks ago... and I have slept a lot since then... seems that most of the forum has gone to sleep too, perhaps they got too tired of "swimming in treacle".. so I thought I might recharge the subject a bit more.
Need to keep on top of these things, otherwise they will drift off and "Become the norm".. as they will be put on the back burner by the "committee"... hoping it will go away, quietly, so they don`t actually have to do anything about it, under the guise of " We will have to see how it goes, and maybe will do something later"..
when later comes...
it is Too Late !...
NOTE. ! . it isn`t even mentioned on Louisa`s "to do" list at the head of this board... that is how "low priority" it has become..
Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
26-04-2016 6:02 PM
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@Anotherone wrote:
Request was already made here shutter, your memory is getting bad
The sad bit is that many of these 'observations' that have been reported over the past few weeks seem to have slipped off the radar and therefore have no focus. Maybe next week we'll see the promised land list.
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Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
26-04-2016 6:50 PM
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according to PN jaread83 it going to be 6 months via fortnightly updates to get away from the BETA forum , and thats just for the known bugs , wonder what anotherone will find before its fixed .
Just to say as i havent heard for a while , is the notification for new posts going to change , as the highlighted text is easily missed , can we add a star or something to a Smartie when a new post is made ?
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Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
26-04-2016 7:48 PM
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If you take a look at the lists you'll find a blob has already been added alongside topic titles to identify those containing an unread post.
Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
26-04-2016 10:46 PM
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Do you mean the black Full stop?
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Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
26-04-2016 11:45 PM
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I guess so since black is the new red.
Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
27-04-2016 6:30 AM - edited 27-04-2016 6:40 AM
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WOW i cant belive someone thought that idea of adding a BLACK / RED full stop would be OBVIOUS to all , that it signified a new post
Has no one thought of using the word NEW ! as they did on old forum
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Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
27-04-2016 7:54 AM
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Just a minor point though, the word NEW takes up more room than a blob The idea being that you want to give the title/date etc as much space as possible, yet give a clear visible indication, especially to those with visual impairment, that it's Unread. It's also important that it's usable and clearly visible on a mobile phone without having to zoom or scroll a mile.
Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
27-04-2016 8:24 AM
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I prefer the blob - much more obvious than the subtle colour change of the title in Plusnet 'burple'.
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Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
27-04-2016 8:50 AM
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All of which is getting away from the original "Grumpy Old Git" post about splitting up the abominational conglomeration of the three old boards.. Windows Software Linux and Technical
However... the light came on last night, just before I was going to sleep.... NO.. Not literally, a sort of "eureka" moment .....I suddently thought that this will never happen, for a very simple reason... and it is usually the simple reasons that get overlooked in the planning stages, but become more and more important as reasons for "NOT" changing anything after the change has been implemented.
@jaread83 @LouisaMartin @PlusnetLiaml and others, who "know" about these things, will put out messages about planned changes "In the future" , on regular monthly notices of intentions, and omit the splitting of the boards, ( as an oversight or something ).implying that we have more important things to do before we get around to that one, etc, and will not be rushing to do any board splitting...
because, the longer they can leave it as it is, they can claim two things...
the first of which will be something like... " The new board seems to be working alright as it is, so why change it"..overlooking the fact that the customers are the one`s who are struggling to use it, ( not them ).. as best they can,.not because they like it..
If you have two pairs of shoes, one with a hole in, and the other in usable condition, you have a choice, when it rains... you can change your shoes, or put up with the one`s with holes in... Unfortunately, it looks like we are going to have to use the one`s with the hole in
and the other one that will come a few weeks later will be something like
" Well, it`s too late to do anything about it now, because we haven`t got the time/manpower/willpower to go and sort through all those threads and re-direct them to the three old board titiles again...
Imagine cutting out all the news items in a newsaper, and all the financial, and letters and other reports, including all the sports reports, ..... all in pieces, in a large box... it will be difficult to find the piece of news or sports report that you want from all that mess,....so you won`t bother... and the same goes for the perpetrators of this crime, they will decided it is too difficult to sort them all out into the proper recoginised groups, and use every excuse to not do it.
so you will have to like it and lump it."
Of course... as with everything else.... I could be wrong.... But I doubt it...
Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
27-04-2016 9:06 AM
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@bobpullen, can you suggest a way of splitting up this board as described by @shutter above re the windows software, linux and hardware boards? I understand that you're probably the best person to make this call for the forum structure and I am all for getting this updated if possible.
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Re: Splitting the Atom - well, not quite .... but..
27-04-2016 9:09 AM
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Just to be clear, it's not just as described by @shutter it's as it was on SMF, 3 boards
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