Master Socket shift

[#1]

Hi, 

Although an ex-PN customer hopefully I am still welcome to post on here time to time. I feel there is more experienced users on these threads.

Recently moved house and master socket is in the way of a sideboard we wish to have in hall. NTE5c with Mk4 VDSL plate so a little bulky.

Ideal solution is to shift the master socket a couple of inches to the left so its above the skirting aboard and next to the door frame, compared to at the moment installed on the skirting board nearer middle of the hall. Only problem is that the cable running from the junction box which is next to the front door is too short. The shift would be be less than half a metre.  (Around 2-3m between master and junction box).

Had a look inside the junction box and all it seems to be is jelly crimps - presumably a master socket relocation done by previous owners.

I'd like to try and do the job myself but need advice on what type of cable I would need to run from junction box to the socket (the existing cable seems heavily deteriorated and exposed in a couple or areas along the length). And how to re-wire the new cable to the outside line within the junction box.

I cannot justify paying Openreach £160 to complete which is a simple job to them. 

I am aware that OR carry a fee to fix what I have broken, does anyone know the fee or whether it is the same as the Lift and Shift fee.

Thanks

NE

(Socket would be on edge with door frame)

(Junction Box)

[#2]

CW1308 or plain old CAT5 will do the job! Just replicate the connections that are already made and your golden.

At your own risk though as you say!

[#3]

Cheers!

Would Cat5E cable be better for me since on a fibre connection?

So on checklist is a couple of jelly crimps, 4m Cat5e, couple of cable clips (anything I may have missed out?)

NE

[#4]

Yep! Nice and easy.

[#5]

Thanks

Will order on Amazon now and get it done n over with.

No way can I justify £160 for a simple job! 

[#6]

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@NorthEasterner wrote:

Would Cat5E cable be better for me since on a fibre connection?

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Using Cat5E is a dead giveaway if you ever need Openreach to attend?  Try blagging some standard CW1308 from someone - there must be oodles of it about locally.  2 Metres of Cat 5 won't make much difference.

[#7]

Moderator's note by Mike (Mav): This thread is now in the appropriate board.

[#8]

@MauriceC

I've ordered BT spec CW1724 which seems to be similar to CW1308 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10m-White-CW1724-2-Pair-CAT5E-BT-CABLES-Twisted-Telephone-Network-CW1308-...

Hopefully this is okay

[#9]

I've moved master sockets about without issue (just don't admit to an engineer that you did it if there was ever a fault, just say "It was like that when I moved in!"), and yes, Cat5e twisted pair is a good choice for the job, so long as it's solid-core you should be golden...

One thing I recommend is a decent Krone tool, as the little plastic tools that you get with kits is useless, and a proper tool has little scissors that snip as you press down on them trimming off excess wire...

Also, leave plenty of slack wire in the socket for any future work, just in case...

[#10]

Looks like I've made things worse 

Speeds dropped to 

Data rate:

14.15 Mbps / 42.34 Mbps

Maximum data rate:

14141 / 43051

Noise margin:

6.2 dB / 3.3 dB

From previous (see image)

Can't really see where I have gone wrong considering all wired up correctly - I had to do jelly crimps a couple of times.

NE

[#11]

Line attenuation increased from 12.3 dB to 37dB

[#12]

Maybe some photos of what you've done might help. One wire not actually connected? Have you tested that a phone works?

[#13]

Oh no... phone is dead 

Back to the drawing board 

[#14]

Here is junction box.

I did snip off the brown and green wires as they weren't attached to anything within the master socket - just the orange and the blue.

NE

[#15]

Internet now dropping intermittently.

Will have another go at redoing the crimps and A/B terminals.

Any other advice?