Preparing for FTTP install day, moving outside box

[#1]

No problem Derek.

I think the only way for Andy to guarantee what he wants is to lay another duct from the front wall of his lounge (below point A), under the block paving, to the outer wall of - or even into - his garage. The CSP would normally be fitted on the outside of the lounge wall where the existing duct and copper pair pops up at point A, but it might be possible to fit it on the garage wall at point B.

A 25 mm internal diameter duct with a blue draw cord to allow the fibre to be pulled through should be sufficient. If Andy wants to put the Ethernet cables in the duct too then I suggest 50 mm ID duct.

That's a lot of work, but would give a neat result. Alternatively, clipping the fibre to the wall from point A to point B at damp-proof course level, under the front door looks possible, is a lot less work and wouldn't look too bad.

[#2]

Thanks all, yes confirming the wholesale checker info shared by @Lawrencium103 is for my property (Not sure I know you @Lawrencium103 but I have a hunch ). Here's the duct. Left is openreach duct, right is for my 4 x Ethernet. 

I'm thinking of running another length of flexi conduit as there's space to tuck it up behind the openreach duct under the cover. The technician can then hopefully just come out here and loop back down into my conduit to point B. Failing that I can let them install at A and use @mwwagain 's suggestion and run a fibre extension along my flexi conduit. That might actually be the best option anyway as then the ONT can be moved back to the living room in future if we move.

It's not clear from the picture how the ethernet cables get into either the house or the garage.

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It's not in a conduit unfortunately so not really an option unfortunately. It's just tucked under the garage door frame corner. I can put new 20mm flexi conduit in though and bring it up at point B so they can then fit the outside box, drill through into the garage and the ONT can go on the other side of the wall. There's some internal trunking with plenty of room running from there to the other end of the garage where the UPS and router are if they're happy to fit it further into the garage.

[#3]

@AndyMillne 

Thanks for the pictures.

I don't really see any problem at the house end. Getting into the garage is another matter.

You just won't know until the day if the installer is happy with the access. You would really need to bring conduit into the garage itself and then perhaps wall duct to your desired point. That way the cable is protected. Others might have a better idea.

Brian

[#4]

@AndyMillne 

I have used that duct for Ethernet cabling. For long straight runs I used the solid version with adapters on each end to introduce gentle bends with the flexi stuff.
The easiest way for this to be used will probably be for the installer to fit the CSP at location A. Then with a draw rope ready installed persuade them that it will be easy to pull a long end tail from the garage through to the CSP without having to introduce sharp bends where the Openreach duct would need to feed into your 20 mm one.

[#5]

I went ahead and put some 25mm flexi conduit in with a nylon draw rope. That should be any bigger work done that might be needed. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I'll update after the install.

[#6]

@AndyMillne 

You don't show the garage end - as mentioned I don't know if the installer would be happy with the setup previously shown.

At the house end, I would lift two blocks before the install to show you're happy to do a big of digging if required.

Not really spoken of yet is the Customer Splice Point (CSP) which normally goes on the external wall. As has been mentioned it could go above the OR cable cover and then the fibre brough straight back down. However, if the installer is happy then they might just "loop" the cable from the OR duct to yours and put the CSP in the garage alongside the ONT.

Brian

[#7]

My preferred location for the CSP would be on the outside wall above where the cable comes up from the drive at the garage side. They should then be able to drill into the garage and pick up my trunking inside to go to the final spot for the ONT inside the garage?

[#8]

Tempted to even pick up a CSP and cable entry kit on eBay and put it in place ahead of time.