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Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

goldenfibre
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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

I am sick of tired with DLM system. Time to ask BT to scrap it. You don't need DLM for fibre for god's sake.

            
	Interleave depth	8               	4               
	INP             	52.00           	55.00           
	INPRein         	1.00            	1.00            
	Delay           	0               	0               
Bearer 1
	Interleave depth	3               	1               
	INP             	4.50            	4.00            
	INPRein         	4.50            	4.00            
	Delay           	3               	0               
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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

Test Outcome Pass
Test Outcome Code GTC_FTTC_SERVICE_0000
Description GEA service test completed and no fault found .
Main Fault Location OK
Sync Status In Sync
Downstream Speed 70.8 Mbps
Upstream Speed 19.1 Mbps
Appointment Required N
Fault Target Fix Time  
Fault Report Advised N
Estimated Line Length In Metres 248.3
Upstream Rate Assessment Very Good
Downstream Rate Assessment Reasonable
Interference Pattern Regular Interference Observed Daily
Service Impact Retrains Observed
Interference Duration Longest Occurrence From 01:30 to 01:45
Interference Location Unknown
Home Wiring Problem Not Detected
Downstream Policing Discard Rate 0.0
Customer Traffic Level Upstream and Downstream Traffic Detected
Technology VDSL
Current 15Min Bin Retrains 0
Last 15Min Bin Retrains 0
NTE Power Status PowerOn
Voice Line Test Result Pass
Bridge Tap Not Detected
Radio Frequency Ingress Not Detected
Repetitive Electrical Impulse Noise Not Detected
Cross Talk Not Detected
Profile Name 0.128M-80M Downstream, Retransmission Low - 0.128M-20M Upstream, Error Protection Off
Time Stamp 2017-10-31T15:30:00
Parameters MIN MAX AVG
Down Stream Line Rate 73.9 Mbps 79.9 Mbps 79.6 Mbps
Up Stream Line Rate 19.9 Mbps 20.0 Mbps 19.9 Mbps
Up Time 0.0 Sec 900.0 Sec 885.0 Sec
Retrains 0.0 80.0 0.0
Current and Last 15 Minute Bin Performance
Parameters Last Traffic Count(Upto 15 mins) Current Traffic Count(Upto 15 mins)
Start Time Stamp 2017-11-13T14:58:17Z 2017-11-13T15:13:17Z
Ingress Code Violation 0 0
Egress Code Violation 0 0
Errored Seconds 0 0
Severely Errored Seconds 0 0
Unavailable Seconds 0 0
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Anoush Mortazavi
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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

@Gandalf

 

I don't understand the GEA Test say max sync is 79.9/20.0 but the sync rate 70.8/19.1 while my billion modem sync rate is 73998K/20000K.

 

Look like I was banded indeed.

I will ask the fault team to send out engineer to reset the DLM of my request.

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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

Your line isn't banded as shown below:

Profile Name 0.128M-80M Downstream, Retransmission Low - 0.128M-20M Upstream, Error Protection Off
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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

The timestamp suggests that profile information is about two weeks old! Obviously the line is currently banded and on a Retransmission High profile. Not that that should make any difference to the sending out of Openreach just to do a DLM reset.

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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

@goldenfibre

All DSL needs some sort of DLM system. More so FTTC. A heck of a lot of lines would be in trouble without it.


@Gandalf

Anoush. As per ejs comments, that line definitely looks banded to me.
The profile shown in your tests is not current to the line, there are several pointers showing that the data is old.

No way is that line profile Re-TX low and upstream error protection off.
Re-tx is high on downstream. Upstream has Re-TX... and its looks like its banded at 74Mbps.

I've brought this up numerous times in the past that the Profile shown when running a GEA test is not always the most current. I've even seen it on my own line where profile data is out of date. Sad

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Interference Pattern Regular Interference Observed Daily
Service Impact Retrains Observed

 

Can you by any chance get the ILQ counter status?
That would be interesting to see.

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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet


@goldenfibre wrote:

I am sick of tired with DLM system. Time to ask BT to scrap it. You don't need DLM for fibre for god's sake.


But you haven't got fibre!

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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

@Gandalf Please don't blame me. We got our power loss in my area for about 2 hours. There seem an engineer working on the public footpath by fibre cabinet. Western Power online say it was due to high voltage caused power outage. Please see openreach report on new DLM reset here: https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/updates/briefings/super-fastfibreaccessbriefings/super-fastfib...

 

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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

@Gandalf the GEA Test is outdated, incorrect one.

 

This is my router stats as of now:

 

Router stats as of 12:30pm todayRouter stats as of 12:30pm today

adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 33204 Kbps, Downstream rate = 91584 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 73998 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        10.5            14.2
Attn(dB):        11.4            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.5           -1.0

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              -6
B:              146             81
M:              1               1
T:              0               0
R:              8               8
S:              0.0630          0.1295
L:              19683           5560
D:              8               4
I:              155             90
N:              155             90
Q:              8               4
V:              4               1
RxQueue:                140             135
TxQueue:                35              27
G.INP Framing:          18              18
G.INP lookback:         31              27
RRC bits:               24              24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           154             58
B:              0               0
M:              2               2
T:              2               2
R:              16              16
S:              6.4000          16.0000
L:              40              16
D:              3               1
I:              32              32
N:              32              32
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             3606061968              460967
RSCorr:         199             378
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            3549696         418353
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             35496342                1371423
RSCorr:         3               3
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         105590          45
rtx_c:          16              496
rtx_uc:         0               63514

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         0               15
minEFTR:        73976           20000
errFreeBits:    64370466                75231982

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    3818813807              0
Data Cells:     18915811                0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            26              26
AS:             57027

                        Bearer 0
INP:            52.00           55.00
INPRein:        1.00            1.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            0.00
OR:             0.01            0.01
AgR:            74377.87        20184.26

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.50            4.00
INPRein:        4.50            4.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           16.06
OR:             79.68           31.87
AgR:            79.68   31.87

Bitswap:        55/55           167/167

Total time = 15 hours 50 min 53 sec
FEC:            199             378
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            26              26
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 15 minutes time = 5 min 53 sec
FEC:            0               15
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 1 day time = 15 hours 50 min 53 sec
FEC:            199             378
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            26              26
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Since Link time = 15 hours 50 min 25 sec
FEC:            199             378
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

@Gandalf Can I have another GEA Test to see if BT system has updated it. I have left the VDSL modem ON at all times and hopefully DLM will restoring my full line back to 79999k/20000k within next 7 days.

 

However this is my latest router stats after 3 days 2 hours and 44 mins ongoing connection as of today at 23:30Stats 1Stats 1Stats 2Stats 2

 

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Test Outcome Pass
Test Outcome Code GTC_FTTC_SERVICE_0000
Description GEA service test completed and no fault found .
Main Fault Location OK
Sync Status In Sync
Downstream Speed 70.8 Mbps
Upstream Speed 19.1 Mbps
Appointment Required N
Fault Report Advised N
NTE Power Status PowerOn
Voice Line Test Result Pass
Bridge Tap Not Detected
Repetitive Electrical Impulse Noise Not Detected
Estimated Line Length In Metres 248.3
Upstream Rate Assessment Very Good
Downstream Rate Assessment Reasonable
Interference Pattern Regular Interference Observed Daily
Service Impact Retrains Observed
Interference Duration Longest Occurrence From 01:30 to 01:45
Interference Location Unknown
Home Wiring Problem Not Detected
Downstream Policing Discard Rate 0.0
Customer Traffic Level Upstream and Downstream Traffic Detected
Technology VDSL
Current 15Min Bin Retrains 0
Last 15Min Bin Retrains 0
Profile Name 0.128M-80M Downstream, Retransmission Low - 0.128M-20M Upstream, Error Protection Off
Time Stamp 2017-11-05T10:15:00
Parameters MIN MAX AVG
Down Stream Line Rate 73.9 Mbps 79.9 Mbps 77.3 Mbps
Up Stream Line Rate 19.9 Mbps 20.0 Mbps 19.9 Mbps
Up Time 0.0 Sec 900.0 Sec 877.7 Sec
Retrains 0.0 80.0 0.0
Current and Last 15 Minute Bin Performance
Parameters Last Traffic Count(Upto 15 mins) Current Traffic Count(Upto 15 mins)
Start Time Stamp 2017-11-18T09:43:46Z 2017-11-18T09:58:46Z
Ingress Code Violation 0 0
Egress Code Violation 0 0
Errored Seconds 0 0
Severely Errored Seconds 0 0
Unavailable Seconds 0 0

 

It doesn't look like anything has changed. I'd ignore the timestamp above. If you look at the Current Traffic Count, you'll see I completed the test within the last 15 minutes.

 

I hope this helps.

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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

@Gandalf

 

It's clear that DLM has banded my line completely because BT system time stamp is outdated.

 

Retrains 0.0 80.0 0.0

what is this 80.0?

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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

Before DLM were on the lineBefore DLM were on the lineDLM  has banded on the lineDLM has banded on the line

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Re: Openreach make change G.INP & IP Profile on huawei cabinet

@Gandalf any chance re-test of gea test to see if bt system has updated it.

 

Here is my latest stats from modem as of now after ongoing connection 7 days 16 hours stable.

 

sync 1sync 1sync 2sync 2