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Spam, Spam, and more Spam
a week ago
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Since yesterday morning I've been flooded with spam about Meds and my device being hacked. One email every few minutes and still coming in. I've not had any issues recently so genuinely thought things might be getting better, which was a bit optimistic. Apparently not.
Still no news of when the migration will happen, or even an email from PlusNet to say that they are offloading email services to another provider - at least I can get information from this forum.
I did finally get an email to say that copper will be going away, although no specific dates mentioned.
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
a week ago
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My mail box also has waves of similar scam / spam messages.
The analogue telephone service ends on or before 31 Jan 2027, i.e. just 6 months remain.
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
Thursday
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I've had the odd bit of spam in the past (more since Greenby entered the scene), but today alone I've had to delete over 100 spam emails - the same two messages. I had something like 30 or 40 of the exact same emails yesterday.
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
Thursday - last edited Thursday
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Plusnet's [-SPAM-] filter stopped working almost 12 months ago.
Greenby are not a source of spam and they do have quite an aggressive Spam Filter that is controlled from the Greenby portal at : www.greenby.com
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
Thursday
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Thanks, but does that option work if I haven't been migrated? I would assume not.
I didn't say Greenby were the source of the spam, only that it has only become an issue since Plusnet decided to offload email to Greenby. If the Plusnet spam filters haven't been working for 12 months, well that explains the issues. Difficult to tell when there's almost no communications from Plusnet or Greenby about what's going on.
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
Thursday
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There is an easy way to tell if you have been 'migrated', @john_chandler Enter your PN username and account password here: https://greenby.com/ . If you have been moved, the Greenby portal will open, if you haven't, it won't recognise you.
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
Thursday
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@jab1 - not recognised, as expected
About the only information I've ever had is that I would be amongst the last because I had, last year, hosting and domain with Plusnet. I moved those over months ago, so it's just the email left to migrate. It'd be nice to have a rough idea when the migration would happen, or even an idea as to what proportion of users have been migrated so far.
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
Thursday
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See my latest post elsewhere.
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
Friday
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I am with greenby
over last few weeks i have had tickets raised with the machines about whitelist / blacklists that do not work
marking messages as not junk that does not work , every wednesday since last december have had to mark message as not spam still every wednesday it goes into junk also have it my whitelist
Have moaned about the terrible slowness of everything always sitting watching it loading or refreshing, timing out or sever error.
I have been told by the machine to use a third party WHY if i cannot get my emails direct how can any other do it better?
Also told to use a different browser, to sort out spam etc machine told me to set it at no2 , then another one told me to set it at no4/5 ??????
they all agree its VERY FRUSTRATING
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
Friday - last edited Friday
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"I am with greenby"
So am I.
"marking messages as not junk that does not work"
Seems to work for me - but may need to be done more than once.
"every wednesday since last december have had to mark message as not spam still every wednesday it goes into junk also have it my whitelist"
The identical same message, or are there some slight differences? I have a message every Friday that was being junked. I marked them as Not Spam and they are no longer treated as possible spam. (Though I also reduced the Greenby Spam filter threshold around the same time)
"Have moaned about the terrible slowness of everything always sitting watching it loading or refreshing, timing out or sever error."
Agree, the speed of operation of Greenby mail hosts is very variable at present. Am still hoping, after transition is complete, things will stabilise.
"I have been told by the machine to use a third party WHY if i cannot get my emails direct how can any other do it better?"
Not sure what's meant here.
"Also told to use a different browser, to sort out spam etc machine told me to set it at no2 , then another one told me to set it at no4/5 ??????"
A "browser" cannot sort out anything to do with spam. I take it the setting numbers refer to the level of the Greenby spam filter, accessible via your Greenby account.
"they all agree its VERY FRUSTRATING"
My question is: Why are the experiences of different users on Greenby apparently(!) so different?
My tentative and partial answer to my own question is that, with the various email problems that do exist for some users (after transfer to Greenby), their simple answer is always "It's Greenby!" - whatever "It" is.
Some of these issues (e.g. the variable server response time ) are down to Greenby - though, unlike others on here, I well remember similar issues before Greenby was even heard of! But others, such as spam, are IMO unlikely to have much to do with Greenby. Similarly, the failed delivery problem has a number of causes behind it - with the context being, IMO, the increasing security problems on the Internet being caused by AI agents and bots (so it's 'their fault') - c.f. Spam. This has caused email companies to raise and keep on raising their required standards for incoming mail (so, in a way it's 'their fault'). Also, Plusnet and Greenby haven't always kept up to speed with these changes (so, in a way it's 'their fault'). Also some Plusnet (i.e. BT) IP ranges have been identified as suspect - possibly because they have been used to send out spam (so, it's the fault of whoever caused the issue in the first place).
Currently, outgoing mail originating through Greenby is still being forwarded via Plusnet (BT) hosts. When the transition is complete presumably everything will be handled by Greenby hosts with their IP ranges. This might help improve things.
PLUS its 'the fault' of Plusnet users (or companies) who have allowed personal email addresses or account credentials to escape out into the Internet.
Be careful out there!
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
Friday
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I joined plusnet about 2010
I will admit it wasn't always perfect but it plodded on nicely for my light use it was
just plusnet no email clients ,thunderbird, or phone connections. Just Plusnet
But since being with Greenby it has been horrendously slow i sit there waiting for it delete a message
before i can open next one, luckily i am retired so able to waste my life doing it..
Like you i hope it will get better after migration ends which is their excuse for all the problems,
i hope so i don't relish the thought of moving everything BUT by then my free period will have expired,
I would not pay for what i am getting now from Greenby
My weekly email that's treated as junk is from Martins Money Tips ( martin lewis ) arrived ok with Plusnet for many years.
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
yesterday
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16 hours ago
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I was transferred to Greenby a few months ago, I'm drowning in SPAM but it's NOT the related to the Greenby switch.
I've been plagued by SPAM emails off and on for the past few months. I've had my plus.com email address for 20+ years, but my email address has been in too many data breaches - I suspect a lot of the “internet charmers” have it now.
But back in April I got literally 1000's of emails a day from my own spoofed email address Subject: YOU PERVERT! I RECORDED YOU!
They all end in the SPAM folder, but it's difficult to comb through such a torrent looking for real emails.
Eventually Greenby managed to block them even getting into my SPAM folder.
But this week it's kicked off again.
Started with "YOUR DEVICE WAS HACKED!" - But has now moved onto "YOU GOT RECORDED!", currently I've received 9890 emails from "myself" demanding money and bitcoin wallet address 1DhsYTTP2zTuStDfdW9Ft8VhqQVgg6YXmp, I got 3K+ emails on Monday alone.
I've tried to use the webmail filter on Greenby's webmail tool, as has their Support Agent, no success
Also getting:
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I've tried many filters to delete the SPAM before I even see it in the SPAM folder, but nothing works.
I then tried a different approach, I set filters for the normal "junk" emails that get to my Inbox e.g. Linkedin, EaseUS, etc. Low and behold the filters do work on the InBox emails and they end up being deleted or sent to a specific folder. I tried marking a few emails as NOT SPAM to gety them back in the Inbox to see if my filter would delete them but that hasn't worked yet
I believe once an email has been tagged as SPAM e.g. YOUR DEVICE WAS HACKED!, the webmail filters stop working on the email. I've setup rules in Outlook that will delete these emails but I don't see how Greenby's webmail system will work if we can't also. I had an email from their UK support saying this is how it’s supposed to be working and the SPAM filter will work eventually.
I told them that was poor customer service and why would I pay for their services in the future if this is their level of customer support.
I've had a plus.com email address for 20+ years, I think I will need to change to a new email address to avoid this
PS- I've got another 48 emails in the 10 mins I've been writing this post 😀
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
8 hours ago
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Linkedin is on my list of garbage senders.
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
7 hours ago
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shark50
Sorry to read that it must be a nightmare for you
I must admit i am not getting that amount of foul spam sometimes up to 8 to 10 a day
I have gone down the report spam route but waste of time, I have turned off antispam let everything go to inbox
i can mass dump from there without losing emails i want
Good luck with your efforts to get normal service ,
KenM
Re: Spam, Spam, and more Spam
5 hours ago - last edited 5 hours ago
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Cor! Start all over again - I'll use my own version of 'quoting' now, NOT the Lithium variety!! 🤕
"I was transferred to Greenby a few months ago, I'm drowning in SPAM but it's NOT the related to the Greenby switch."
Exactly!
I have yet to see any conclusive, positive proof that it is the transfer causing the Spam issue for some people. Remember: 'Correlation is not causation'.
Evidence against this idea is that, if the transfer was the primary cause, then would not everyone transferred be receiving spam? This is not the case.
The above is not conclusive proof it has nothing to do with the transfer operation, but makes it seem unlikely. IMO.
"I've been plagued by SPAM emails off and on for the past few months. I've had my plus.com email address for 20+ years, but my email address has been in too many data breaches - I suspect a lot of the “internet charmers” have it now."
Well, there you go!
"But this week it's kicked off again.
Started with "YOUR DEVICE WAS HACKED!" - But has now moved onto "YOU GOT RECORDED!", currently I've received 9890 emails from "myself" demanding money and bitcoin wallet address 1DhsYTTP2zTuStDfdW9Ft8VhqQVgg6YXmp, I got 3K+ emails on Monday alone."
You see, I wouldn't have done that - quoted that Bitcoin wallet address. I know it is unlikely but it just might be that ID is specific to your email. On the Internet you need to be ultra cautious, IMO.
"I believe once an email has been tagged as SPAM e.g. YOUR DEVICE WAS HACKED!, the webmail filters stop working on the email. I've setup rules in Outlook that will delete these emails but I don't see how Greenby's webmail system will work if we can't also. I had an email from their UK support saying this is how it’s supposed to be working and the SPAM filter will work eventually."
I think, if you are using client email software, it is likely best to deal with all spam via your email client and not on the Greenby host. Switch off spam filtering in your Greenby account. If using Webmail exclusively, it's different.
"I've had a plus.com email address for 20+ years, I think I will need to change to a new email address to avoid this"
Changing to an entirely new email address is indeed one way to reset the situation.
What can one say, apart from all the obvious?
NEVER reply to any spam email - certainly not to any enclosed "Stop future mailings" buttons.
In my experience (from the past) it will eventually cease over time if ignored and they get no response. Never respond.
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