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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
31-01-2008 7:36 PM
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Quote from: Bob
Quote from: terminal how long will it be before this is done? I seem to remember it took ages to get the current buttons on there. In my view this should have been done as soon as you rolled postini out, seems unprofessional to roll out new systems without the infrastructure to support it.
I see no reason why we can't have it completed within a week. We had to modify the original plugin so it *didn't* send email as attachments. Now we can pretty much use the raw version.
well that was a week ago, still no sign of those buttons being updated. Any guess when this might be done?
Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
31-01-2008 8:35 PM
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
31-01-2008 8:36 PM
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
31-01-2008 8:38 PM
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
01-02-2008 9:50 PM
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
01-02-2008 10:03 PM
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Quote from: Bob Just to reiterate what I said up there folks ^^^
It makes it a lot easier for us to collate, analyse and report these false positives if they're sent as attachments to notspam@spamtraining.plus.com.
A few of you are doing this but the more we get the better!
forwarding as attachments to the notspam address should be sufficient.
This forum seems to be for people to vent their frustration at the way postini / plusnet seem incapable of recognising certain emails as not being spams (lost count of the number of false positives I've had this week, in excess of 50)
Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
02-02-2008 10:30 PM
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Quote from: terminal netreg, from bobs earlier message ...
Quote from: Bob Just to reiterate what I said up there folks ^^^
It makes it a lot easier for us to collate, analyse and report these false positives if they're sent as attachments to notspam@spamtraining.plus.com.
A few of you are doing this but the more we get the better!
forwarding as attachments to the notspam address should be sufficient.
This forum seems to be for people to vent their frustration at the way postini / plusnet seem incapable of recognising certain emails as not being spams (lost count of the number of false positives I've had this week, in excess of 50)
understood, sent 10 yesterday and another 4 today thanks for the clarification.
Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
02-02-2008 10:38 PM
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When a considerable number are because Plusnet are misinterpreting the Postini headers Plusnet cannot forward them automatically to Postini as they will be ridiculed.
They know that they have made a complete foul-up of the tagging as Spam 1,2 etc (or if they don't they haven't been paying any attention to these forums).
Given the minuscule proportion of the emails forwarded for DSPAM training that were actually used I suspect this is just a publicity stunt just to kid us that something is being done.
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
03-02-2008 1:34 AM
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
03-02-2008 9:17 AM
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
03-02-2008 6:19 PM
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
03-02-2008 10:24 PM
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Has PN started any whitelisting yet based on message sent to notspam ?
So far, the response from PN on this seems inert.
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
04-02-2008 8:46 AM
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
04-02-2008 9:47 AM
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Quote from: jelv Given the minuscule proportion of the emails forwarded for DSPAM training that were actually used I suspect this is just a publicity stunt just to kid us that something is being done.
Jelv, it is not a publicity stunt. instead it gives us a very good indication as to how well the current implementation is working. The forwarded emails will help us refine our own detection algorithms as well as Postini theirs.
Quote from: godsell4 Has PN started any whitelisting yet based on message sent to notspam ?
So far, the response from PN on this seems inert.
No. No global white-listing has been enforced based on the forwarded emails. Neither am I sure that doing this would be to everyone's liking.
Quote from: pierre_pierre why the lowscore From PN to PN
pierre_pierre, AFAIK this shouldn't be happening. We made some changes last week that should pass all PN > PN email passing through our relays as good.
Quote from: terminal well that was a week ago, still no sign of those buttons being updated. Any guess when this might be done?
The changes were supposed to be made last week but our QA guys weren't happy with them going out on a Friday. Should hopefully be done today all being well. Apologies for the confusion.
Guys, this thread isn't being ignored and the category filtering is definitely something that needs revisiting. Things like this shouldn't be happening and we've opened a problem to re-evaluate the heurisitcs (Ref: 49866)!
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Re: Please post evidence of postini false positives here
04-02-2008 9:59 AM
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Can I repeat a suggestion I made a while back. When you get the default settings right please make that SPAM 3 and make (by default) SPAM 1, 2 & 3 get tagged etc. That then gives room for two more lenient levels below - SPAM 1 could be S: 0.00000 only. The current SPAM 3, 4 and 5 are so strict they are worthless - to use them people would have to whitelist a colossal amount of addresses.
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