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Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 10:13 AM
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For User group read Union
Which would the Community consider most appropriate to fight our corner in a dispute.
PS I'm not a union fan under normal circumstances.
To argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead - Thomas Paine
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 10:32 AM
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Quote from: James_G
Quote from: Spider I agree we should trust the moderators to help us to win this campaign.
I'm interested to know why you feel the Mods are better place than the Usergroup to do such a thing?
If we could find out where you see the Usergroup as being less able than the moderators of this forum, we might be able to help assuage your doubts and gather your support.
Please state clearly where did I ever say that the Mods are better placed than the Usergroup to do such a thing?
As far as I am aware the Usergroup does not have any powers on this board to enforce the Forum Rules. Therefore I trust the Mods will uphold those rules and ensure that campaign threads are kept on topic to ensure that the message is not lost in off-topic posts.
Now please indicate how you become a member of the this 'elite' Usergroup and what specific relevance that as against the decisions of a mod on this forum.
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 10:35 AM
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Quote from: James_G I'm interested to know why you feel the Mods are better place than the Usergroup to do such a thing?
I suspect because many users of the community forum have no idea what the Usergroup is, what its purpose and scope is, who the members are, why they are members, how they got to be members.
Edit: Sorry Spider you posted just before me
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 10:36 AM
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(1) Any user has the right to start a poll if they wish as long as it's within the forum rules.
(2) Mods do not have the right to suppress content on this forum because THEY intend doing something at a later date.
(3) These forums are for users use not just mods.
(4) Customers may ask anything within forum rules, it does NOT have to be a comprehensive list and they certainly do not have to wait to see if PlusNet change anything.
(5) Suppressing users legal post/polls amounts to censorship not moderating.
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There is a need to
1. Give Plusnet time to consider and respond to the considerable criticism that has been thrown at them since Tuesday.
2. A comprehensive poll (or set of polls as I don't think these forums have the mod that allows multiple questions in a single topic) to address all aspects of the product refresh.
The locked poll is here. The question is very narrow and only explores part of the issue (i.e. would you recommend PN with the 18 month contract), it doesn't explore whether existing users would switch to one of the new products, if they wouldn't why they wouldn't, and what they might do otherwise (e.g. stay put or move to another ISP).
People get fed up with poll after poll, if this poll had been allowed to run, it is highly likely that the numbers voting in a more constructive poll next week would be reduced. Also Plusnet will just dismiss polls which as geewizz said, just proves that knees jerk.
Now is not the time for fighting among ourselves (Plusnet would be delighted if that happens as it would draw some of the anger away from themselves), now is the time for united action to divert Plusnet from the disastrous path on which it has embarked. As the only elected representatives of the community (although that was not what they were elected to do) we must trust the moderators to help us win this campaign.
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 10:38 AM
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Quote from: James_G
Quote from: Spider I agree we should trust the moderators to help us to win this campaign.
I'm interested to know why you feel the Mods are better place than the Usergroup to do such a thing?
If we could find out where you see the Usergroup as being less able than the moderators of this forum, we might be able to help assuage your doubts and gather your support.
How many posts about the new product set have there been on the public boards on the PUG forums?
What responsibilities do PUG members have on these forums (if they are not also moderators)?
How were the PUG members elected?
QED
If PUG were to put together a draft poll to be posted on these forums I'm sure that the moderators would look on it favourably - a poll jointly promoted by PUG and the moderators... (hint, hint)
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 10:43 AM
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To argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead - Thomas Paine
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 10:44 AM
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Why?
Quote from: jelv Now is not the time for fighting among ourselves (Plusnet would be delighted if that happens as it would draw some of the anger away from themselves), now is the time for united action to divert Plusnet from the disastrous path on which it has embarked. As the only elected representatives of the community (although that was not what they were elected to do) we must trust the moderators to help us win this campaign.
Could anybody who supports this view post a very simple request similar to the first line of this post please. Having done that I suggest if it is not locked we ignore it and hope it sinks in to oblivion.
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 10:47 AM
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Quote from: jelv Public request to the moderators. Please lock this topic.
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 10:48 AM
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This thread is not breaking any forum rules and so should be allowed to continue as the discussion is valid.
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 11:30 AM
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Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 1:48 PM
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Question: Will you still recommend PlusNet now there is an 18 month contract
I do not see that the answer would have been knee jerk. I for one had to make a decision about that very question. On Wednesday evening I had a meeting with the committee from a local charity to discuss their options for hosting their Web site (which is currently hosted on my PlusNet space since my wife was an employee) and for broadband access. Before Tuesday recommending PlusNet would have been simple but by Wednesday I could not honestly recommend PlusNet and they will be using an alternative supplier.
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
20-02-2009 9:24 PM
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The deatiled poll will put all the negative and postive views of the pn customers/comunity users into a an easy readable view and having a team of people (mods or not) setting up and organizing the poll's will make it easyer for users to view and understand
As for locking the op's poll i do think the best mod thing to do would of bein to PM the op and tell them that the mod's have a plan to do a deatiled poll nxt week and request the op thinks about closing there poll in light of this.
wouldnt it be now better to spend time on disscusing what option's ect should be used in the poll's that have caused this moding police arrgument and get back on track improving plusnet for the customers of now and future.
we need to unite and stand up against margaret thatcher aka BT and leave any arrugments about moding errors till after the strom has passed
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
21-02-2009 10:33 AM
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Just hang in there
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
21-02-2009 10:52 AM
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http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,74105.0.html
But that broke no forum rules - did it ?
So I too believe the mod acted outside of his remit.
Furthermore - there was not a PM either before or afterwards, which I consider very unfortunate and impolite.
I did vote in both mod elections, and consider they do a difficult job at times, but it not their job to censor free speech.
Re: Mods - Damn cheek
21-02-2009 11:01 AM
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