ADSL2?? when and how??

[#1]

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from :- CRC:    1559    FEC:    4724999 NCD:    0 to:-      CRC:    2594    FEC:    9613994 NCD:    0 in 8 hours

That's not so good!!
You need to eliminate any internal wiring issues by checking from the 'test socket' 

[#2]

AR7 DSL Modem Statistics:
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[DSL Modem Stats]
        US Connection Rate:    834    DS Connection Rate:    13671
        DS Line Attenuation:    12      DS Margin:              15
        US Line Attenuation:    5      US Margin:              12
        US Payload :            228240  DS Payload:            751632
        US Superframe Cnt :    629743  DS Superframe Cnt:      629743
        US Transmit Power :    0      DS Transmit Power:      0
        LOS errors:            0      SEF errors:            0
        Errored Seconds:        0      Severely Err Secs:      0
        Frame mode:            0      Max Frame mode:        0
        Trained Path:          1      US Peak Cell Rate:      1966
        Trained Mode:          16      Selected Mode:          1
        ATUC Vendor Code:      54535443        ATUC Revision:  3
        Hybrid Selected:        1      Trellis:                1
        Showtime Count:        1      DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 14656 kbps
        BitSwap:                1      US Max Attainable Bit Rate: 1622030 bps
        Annex:                  AnxA    psd_mask_qualifier: 0x0000
        Power Management Status: L0    DS HLINSC: 0
        US ACTPSD:              -345    DS ACTPSD: -376
        Total init. errors:    0      Total init. timeouts: 0
        Showtime init. errors:  0      Showtime init. timeouts: 0
        Last showtime init. errors: 0  Last showtime init. timeouts: 0
        ATUC ghsVid:  b5 00 54 53 54 43 05 10
        T1413Vid: 00 00        T1413Rev: 00            VendorRev: 00
        ATUR ghsVid:  b5 00 54 53 54 43 00 00
        T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00    VendorRev: 00
        [Upstream (TX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    8      FEC:    205    NCD:    0
        LCD:    0      HEC:    4
        [Downstream (RX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    0      FEC:    1      NCD:    0
        LCD:    0      HEC:    0
        [Upstream (TX) Fast path]
        CRC:    0      FEC:    0      NCD:    0
        LCD:    0      HEC:    0
        [Downstream (RX) Fast path]
        CRC:    0      FEC:    0      NCD:    0
        LCD:    0      HEC:    0
[ATM Stats]
        [Upstream/TX]
        Good Cell Cnt:  4755
        Idle Cell Cnt:  21053019
        Tx Packets Dropped Count:      0
        Tx Bad Packets Count:  9
        [Downstream/RX)]
        Good Cell Cnt:  15659
        Idle Cell Cnt:  345178515
        Bad Hec Cell Cnt:      0
        Overflow Dropped Cell Cnt:      0
        Rx Packets Dropped Count:      0
        Rx Bad Packets Count:  0

[SAR AAL5 Stats]
        Tx PDU's:      1916
        Rx PDU's:      2134
        Tx Total Bytes: 151352
        Rx Total Bytes: 694893
        Tx Total Error Counts:  0
        Rx Total Error Counts:  0

[OAM Stats]
        Near End F5 Loop Back Count:    0
        Near End F4 Loop Back Count:    0
        Far End F5 Loop Back Count:    0
        Far End F4 Loop Back Count:    0
        SAR OAM Ping Response Drop Count=0
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ok, its only 3 and half hours but  i think its enough to prove my internal wiring sucks, i guess a couple of hundred errors over 3 and half hours is ok? i also notice my sync speed has went up from 10500 to 13500. i guess if i kept it in the test socket my noise margin would drop and i would probably end up with the 19000 connection that the kitz tool predicted?

[#3]

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ok, its only 3 and half hours but  i think its enough to prove my internal wiring sucks, i guess a couple of hundred errors over 3 and half hours is ok? i also notice my sync speed has went up from 10500 to 13500. i guess if i kept it in the test socket my noise margin would drop and i would probably end up with the 19000 connection that the kitz tool predicted?

Yep! well maybe 19000 is a bit optimistic...
First thing to check on your internal wiring is whether the 'ring wire' is connected , if there are more than 2 wires connected to the removeable faceplate on the master socket then there is a good chance that could be the problem and its a simple fix. See here http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/socket.htm for details on the Ring Wire and how to remove it

[#4]

ringwire got removed years ago,lol!!
i think the main problem is probably the fact my router is connected to an extension and not the master socket. i jst recently discovered the extension goes out to the garage then comes back into the box room where my router normally sits. i guess im screwed. i need the router there for my pc's. i cant run cables because wooden floors would make it a pain, and homeplugs are too expensive (for me at least)
would bad internal wiring make such a huge difference? just seems like crazy high figures, plus i used to connect at about 7500 on an 8meg connection previously using the exact same setup so something has happened . if a wire came loose or something can that make the difference? or a dodgy filter maybe at the extension where the router sits?

[#5]

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would bad internal wiring make such a huge difference?

Well yes!! , the figures speak for themselves...
In extension
[DSL Modem Stats]
        US Connection Rate:    834    DS Connection Rate:    10754
        DS Line Attenuation:    14      DS Margin:              13
        US Line Attenuation:    6      US Margin:              11
In test socket
[DSL Modem Stats]
        US Connection Rate:    834    DS Connection Rate:    13671
        DS Line Attenuation:    12      DS Margin:              15
        US Line Attenuation:    5      US Margin:              12
The sync has gone up be nearly 3Mb!! and the downstream margin is better ( so's the attenuation slightly ) so its got to be due to internal wiring.

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plus i used to connect at about 7500 on an 8meg connection previously using the exact same setup so something has happened

Well not necessarily, your line is so short that it would probably sync at the maximum on ADSL1 even with the internal wiring problems, its only when the increased frequencies of ADSL2+ are being used that the effects of the wiring become more apparent.
What sort of wire is used for the extension?, if its plain old internal telephone cable, is it possible to replace that easily, with some decent twisted pair modern stuff, as that may make a difference.

[#6]

2db difference on the attenuation - something is very wrong!

[#7]

Ooops! Before I used the test socket for those results I did notice the cover was kinda loose. Anyway I've put things back the way they were( router in other room connected to an extension) and made sure the master socket was tightened properly this time. Things arent back to the 13671 but nor did they drop to the 10754. They now sit at
        US Connection Rate:    834    DS Connection Rate:    12546
        DS Line Attenuation:    13      DS Margin:              15
        US Line Attenuation:    6      US Margin:              11
My errors have went up but owhere near as bad as they were. I guess having the master socket tightened up must help,ooops!! 
Thanks for your help and advice everyone. I'm going to stay with it like this for the moment till I can afford homeplugs. Thanks again!!
     

[#8]

Okay, I know its been a while but since things have changed I thought it would be nice to let you know how it went.
Anyway i went ahead and got an adsl adaptor faceplate for the master phone socket and then purchased a homeplug kit.  things have changed dramatically but Im still not sure if theyre great. My connection rate is now at 19700 so thats a huge improvement. My crcs have virtually dissapeeared considering what it was like before but my FEC's are through the roof(is that bad) plus I do have a few errored seconds creeping in. The most dissapointing thing however is even download tests barely show any difference in my speed, about 1 meg faster :(. Anyway heres my new stats, any comments, suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
:AR7 DSL Modem Statistics:
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[DSL Modem Stats]
US Connection Rate: 828 DS Connection Rate: 19752
DS Line Attenuation: 12 DS Margin: 3
US Line Attenuation: 5 US Margin: 12
US Payload : 839217264 DS Payload: 548962736
US Superframe Cnt : 44714860 DS Superframe Cnt: 44714860
US Transmit Power : 0 DS Transmit Power: 0
LOS errors: 0 SEF errors: 0
Errored Seconds: 49 Severely Err Secs: 1
Frame mode: 0 Max Frame mode: 0
Trained Path: 1 US Peak Cell Rate: 1952
Trained Mode: 16 Selected Mode: 1
ATUC Vendor Code: 54535443 ATUC Revision: 3
Hybrid Selected: 1 Trellis: 1
Showtime Count: 1 DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 21836 kbps
BitSwap: 1 US Max Attainable Bit Rate: 1627869 bps
Annex: AnxA psd_mask_qualifier: 0x0000
Power Management Status: L0 DS HLINSC: 0
US ACTPSD: -345 DS ACTPSD: -386
Total init. errors: 0 Total init. timeouts: 0
Showtime init. errors: 0 Showtime init. timeouts: 0
Last showtime init. errors: 0 Last showtime init. timeouts: 0
ATUC ghsVid:  b5 00 54 53 54 43 05 10
T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00 VendorRev: 00
ATUR ghsVid:  b5 00 54 53 54 43 00 00
T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00 VendorRev: 00
[Upstream (TX) Interleave path]
CRC: 17 FEC: 2163 NCD: 0
LCD: 0 HEC: 10
[Downstream (RX) Interleave path]
CRC: 101 FEC: 184710137 NCD: 0
LCD: 0 HEC: 0
[Upstream (TX) Fast path]
CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 0
LCD: 0 HEC: 0
[Downstream (RX) Fast path]
CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 0
LCD: 0 HEC: 0
[ATM Stats]
[Upstream/TX]
Good Cell Cnt: 17483693
Idle Cell Cnt: 1466965291
Tx Packets Dropped Count: 0
Tx Bad Packets Count: 8
[Downstream/RX)]
Good Cell Cnt: 100915209
Idle Cell Cnt: 951938099
Bad Hec Cell Cnt: 2254
Overflow Dropped Cell Cnt: 0
Rx Packets Dropped Count: 0
Rx Bad Packets Count: 0

[SAR AAL5 Stats]
Tx PDU's: 5692836
Rx PDU's: 5880465
Tx Total Bytes: 606962199
Rx Total Bytes: 374843340
Tx Total Error Counts: 0
Rx Total Error Counts: 1

[OAM Stats]
Near End F5 Loop Back Count: 0
Near End F4 Loop Back Count: 0
Far End F5 Loop Back Count: 0
Far End F4 Loop Back Count: 0
SAR OAM Ping Response Drop Count=0


UPDATE:
Just noticed my profile is still set at 12000 and hasnt been changed since last November!!! How does this get altered?