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Routerstats Lite/Full

jem16
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Current stats;
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Uptime: 0 days, 2:56:42

DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,066 / 7,001

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 156.84 / 776.23

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.6 / 0.0

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 28.7 / 47.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 5.5 / 5.9

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 25 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 3 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 573 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 6,237 / 11,709

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 62 / 43

HEC Errors (Up/Down): 172 / 546
jem16
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Current stats;
Uptime: 0 days, 18:01:18

DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,066 / 7,001

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 175.10 / 966.87

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.6 / 0.0

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 28.7 / 47.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6.0 / 6.3

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 25 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 3 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 673 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 6,946 / 41,825

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 65 / 185

HEC Errors (Up/Down): 187 / 2,767
Anotherone
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

So when there are errors at the exchange end, yes that fine then in that "engineer"'s book. Who cares if crap is sent down the line to the end user and that there's something faulty at the exchange end would seem to be his attitude Shocked Angry
I totally agree with you jem16, I do not envy Tony his job in situations like this, it makes it extremely difficult for him never mind the escalation owner as well.
jem16
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Quote from: Anotherone
So when there are errors at the exchange end, yes that fine then in that "engineer"'s book. Who cares if [Censored] is sent down the line to the end user and that there's something faulty at the exchange end would seem to be his attitude Shocked Angry

Perhaps the engineers that are going out to the exchange are not being given the full picture or, like all the others who turned up at my door, are not reading the notes provided for them by Tony.
They all seem to do a simple line test which shows up as fine. It's not until I actually tell them that the errors mount up on incoming calls that they eventually agree that is what is happening. I suspect yesterday's engineer did that simple line test saw no errors and declared it fine without testing during an incoming call.

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I totally agree with you jem16, I do not envy Tony his job in situations like this, it makes it extremely difficult for him never mind the escalation owner as well.

Totally agree here. My appreciation goes to Tony for sticking with this and attempting to get it fixed by escalating it. I appreciate the escalation owner is also finding it difficult too although I would expect some direct (as in speaking) communication between him and the exchange engineers might help. However perhaps he has already done that.
jelv
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Perhaps OR could give you a second line for free so that your broadband line never has to be used for calls!
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler)
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jem16
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

They would also need to guarantee that no telepests ever dialled the number either - a feat which I fear is totally beyond them!
jem16
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Just came back home.  Everything has been down since 4.16. Either they're now doing the work or something has gone badly wrong.
Tony do you know?
jem16
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Back up just as I posted via my phone.
Upstream looks a bit odd just now though.
Uptime: 0 days, 0:04:54

DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 732 / 7,058

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 185.71 / 0.99

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.2 / 20.0

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 25.9 / 46.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 3.4 / 5.9

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / TSTC

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 34 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 4 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 752 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 40,964 / 1,400

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 1 / 1

HEC Errors (Up/Down): 1 / 1
plusnettony
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Nothing that I'm aware of. I'm checking now though, so I'll update you in a few minutes if I find anything out.
If this post resolved your issue please click the 'This fixed my problem' button
 Tony T
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jem16
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Thanks Tony - got your ticket update saying you're not aware of anything being done this afternoon.
Something is obviously wrong then - half an hour dropout of both BB and phone isn't normal.
Tried a couple of test calls - first one dropped the BB. 2nd one didn't drop BB but still the usual spike.
Upstream SNR seems much lower than normal after the 1/2 hour dropout.
Current stats;
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Uptime: 0 days, 0:05:05

DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 660 / 6,763

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 187.54 / 0.99

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.2 / 20.0

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 25.9 / 46.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 3.9 / 6.1

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / TSTC

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 43 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 5 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 778 / 7

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 18,665 / 1,173

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 347 / 29

HEC Errors (Up/Down): 1,557 / 119

Surely BT will no longer say there is no fault - or is a 1/2 hour dropout supposedly normal for them?
If a lift and shift has taken place it hasn't worked for my problem.
jem16
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Scrub the last post - I think there has been a change!

Tony - thanks for your ticket updates where you've said you're not aware of anything happening today.
However something has definitely happened. I checked my Truecall log and there was a call made from an extension to 17070 at 16:16 just before the disconnections. This was not made by me and I've seen this happen before when the engineer was checking at the exchange.
The length of time it was down coincides with a lift and shift timing too. After that the upstream was very odd and 2 disconnections later the upstream settled back to normal with a straight line on my RSL graph that I've never seen before. Just made a test call at 17:58 and not even a blip registered!
These are a few stats taken at various times after the long dropout and then after the smaller resyncs and finally after a call.

After long dropout - note the low upstream SNR.
Uptime: 0 days, 0:09:31

DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 732 / 7,058

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 187.04 / 0.99

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.2 / 20.0

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 25.9 / 46.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 3.7 / 5.8

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / TSTC

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 34 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 4 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 753 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 74,367 / 2,104

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 1 / 3

HEC Errors (Up/Down): 1 / 5
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After the last resync - upstream SNR back to normal.


Uptime: 0 days, 0:02:27

DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.1

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 960 / 7,040

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 188.16 / 0.99

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.4 / 19.8

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 28.0 / 42.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6.0 / 6.3

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / TSTC

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 52 / -

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 6 / -

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / -

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 809 / -

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 4,816

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 13

HEC Errors (Up/Down): 1,557 / 25

After a test call by me  - note lack of upstream errors, apart from 1 CRC error.

Uptime: 0 days, 0:36:15

DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.1

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 960 / 7,040

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 188.38 / 0.99

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.4 / 19.9

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 28.0 / 42.0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6.0 / 6.3

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / TSTC

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 52 / -

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 6 / -

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / -

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 913 / -

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 13,765

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 1 / 152

HEC Errors (Up/Down): 1,557 / 585

Dare I say I'm hopeful...........
JayG
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Lots of changes there, including attenuation, and what to me look like 'sensible' noise margins - as you may remember from before Xmas I've been forced to become a 'stats watcher' for some time, and yours now look much better - if it keeps up I'll join you and Tony in a virtual drink to celebrate if I may!.  Wink
jem16
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Quote from: JayG
Lots of changes there, including attenuation, and what to me look like 'sensible' noise margins -

Thanks JayG - the attenuation changed slightly when engineer number 2 swapped the pairs at the cabinet and gave me a bit extra speed. He also reset the noise margins and so far it's stayed that way although it's been dropping at night. Will be interesting to see how that fares over the next few days so will monitor overnight too.
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as you may remember from before Xmas I've been forced to become a 'stats watcher' for some time, and yours now look much better -

Yes I do remember - it's been like that for both of us. How's your doing?

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if it keeps up I'll join you and Tony in a virtual drink to celebrate if I may!.  Wink

Don't have a drink just yet - I'm afraid to spook it!  Grin
I'll let you know when and I'll even provide the drinks - need to include Anotherone in that too. I'd probably have given up before now if it wasn't for him!
JayG
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Anotherone helped me a lot too, although despite his efforts my worst problems remained unexplained, and there are times when I think it may have been easier to have not changed anything (it all started with obtaining a TG582n so I could use my new Hudl 2 wirelessly - it's 'OK' now but not as solid as it was before and I've even managed to have problems with a MK3 filtered faceplate. ::))
No guarantees with this rather flaky ADSL technology but what's happened for you today has to be a significant upward step - hope it lasts.  Wink
Anotherone
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Re: Routerstats Lite/Full

Hey fingers crossed, you are definitely right, there's no mistaking that something has been changed. Even the DS SNRM looks a touch cleaner for the time of day.
But what's a bit more intriguing is the US attenuation has gone up and the DS Attenuation has gone down Shocked
It'll be interesting to see how the graphs and the stats go on as the evening progresses as well as what happens to the error figures when you phone yourself up Tongue