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04-05-2015 12:39 AM
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He wants to put Windows 8.1 on it.


I haven't used windows since early XP days.
It will be a UEFI setup:-
Quote CPU AMD A8-6600K Quad Core APU (3.9-4.2GHz)
Motherboard Gigabyte F2A68HM-HD2 FM2+ (mATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, 6Gb/s)
Memory (RAM) 8GB KINGSTON DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card 1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GT 730 - DVI, HDMI, VGA
Hard Disk 2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD
Questions:- What's the best way to partition a Windows 2TB drive?
I don't fancy a single big chunk of disk called "C:\"

Alternately I could use Windows equivalents of ssh or rsync - but this will be slow because it's over wireless.
Is there free software available which will let me run Linux (some of the time) in a VM?
Can a VM access any of the hosts files (for backup purposes)?
How does backup work in Windows?
I don't really want to have to backup zillions of OS files when they are available on DVD.
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Re: Windows 8.1 questions...
04-05-2015 1:19 AM
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failing that you can always get a paid for product like cyberlink's backup software (Nero's backitup 12 doesn't work under w8.1 and the newer versions require a monthly fee to unlock them to actually provide the backup....) which allow you to chose exactly what you want to backup through a nice simple GUI, this is something I did for one of my w8.1 machines although I include the OS files because re downloading and installing all that software +updates is a nausea I can do without /
yes you can get vm software to allow you to mount a virtual pc running any os you like, the better ones allow you to access files etc if you want to from the main hard drive but unless your paying decent money then its a bit of a faff to get that functionality.
if your not going to install windows on an ssd then don't bother partitioning the drive before windows is installed up to date and working nromally, (you can always use the computer management feature at a later date to shrink the volume size and create a new volume on the disk if required in the future)
old thinking was to partition a drive to make it last longer, new thinking is that it causes uneven wear of the heads and speeds up drive failure .....
if your truly desperate to run .nix then you can always set the bios to allow you to use a dvd version of your chosen OS, but iirc w8(8.1) likes to set the drive into GPT rather than ntfs as part of the install procedure (but it wont let you install to one that's already formatted to gpt .....)
uefi is fun I hope your mobo recognises that the gfx card is uefi compliant or your going to have to redo the install a few times while you figure out what bios settings to use .......
Re: Windows 8.1 questions...
04-05-2015 4:05 AM
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I'm currently running Linux on a UEFI GPT drive that has a number of partitions.
It was my first attempt at a UEFI boot - took ages to get my head round it.
I hope Windows is clever enough to align software clusters on 4K boundaries.
Quote but iirc w8(8.1) likes to set the drive into GPT rather than ntfs as part of the install procedure (but it wont let you install to one that's already formatted to gpt .....)
That must make it a trifle tricky if you want to reinstall Windows?
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Re: Windows 8.1 questions...
04-05-2015 7:56 AM
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if you something nasty on the system and need ot start from scratch then your going ot insert the dvd boot into the recovery console run the command prompt window and use diskpart to wipe the drive and format it as ntfs ready for windows to do its thang
personally so far ive only used the inside windows options to sort out problems with the kids systems
as for the 4k, when it formats the drive at the start of the install process it will square the sector alignment away
Re: Windows 8.1 questions...
04-05-2015 10:18 AM
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Quote from: nanotm
yes you can get vm software to allow you to mount a virtual pc running any os you like, the better ones allow you to access files etc if you want to from the main hard drive but unless your paying decent money then its a bit of a faff to get that functionality.
I would really recommend Oracle's VirtiualBox. Its free and very very functional. It allows persistent mapping of drives and folders on the host machine to the guest machine, or you can simply use standard network functionality ( the guest and the host(s) can appear on either the full network or a private network only visible to them).
It will certainly support Linux as a guest (or a host).
One neat feature I like is the ability to switch to "seamless mode" such that windows running in the guest appear to be on the host desktop, and cut and paste works just fine between them.
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04-05-2015 7:19 PM
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But Windows seems to have got very user unfriendly.
These things like diskpart or various recovery options seem even more complicated than the days of NT4.
We shall see what happens...

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Re: Windows 8.1 questions...
04-05-2015 8:12 PM
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its different though i'll give you that but its a lot easer to use once you figure out how to find everything and hotlink it all to the desktop or get one of the addons to give you back the old fashioned start menu (which often causes problems when MS release a patch) but the software itself is a lot cheaper than it was 20 years ago (windows 98 was £150 retail versus the £25 for the pro version of w8 on release day) its cool though and if you have a touch screen its so easy to use and sync all your w8 devices to each other with trusted devices all having the ability to view the browser history of each other and passwords saving to all the machines in your personal group.
not needing the notebook to remember the various username/passwords for stuff when your out and about as well as a bunch of other things that are new for the connected passport system like remote wipe /lock/purge options to name but a few that spring to mind.
of course the 2 step auth is a bit of a pain to setup but extremely useful in the event of losing a device ...
Re: Windows 8.1 questions...
05-05-2015 12:22 PM
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How would this work with a 24" monitor?
I don't want to sync everything as that probably involves cloud storage.
I don't have much trust in cloud storage.
What's this "passport system"?
It sounds like something I don't want - I've no interest at looking at somebody else's browser history.
Additionally, I don't want someone tracking where I've been...
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Re: Windows 8.1 questions...
05-05-2015 1:35 PM
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05-05-2015 1:59 PM
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It should be interesting from the point of view of the Linux versus Windows controversy though.
I will put a Linux VM in and see which gets the most use.
I've recently installed a Linux upgrade in a VM on a Linux PC - it appears to run at "bare metal" speeds.
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Re: Windows 8.1 questions...
05-05-2015 2:36 PM
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05-05-2015 8:16 PM
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I hope to persuade him to use separate admin and user accounts - but that is probably a lost cause.

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05-05-2015 8:37 PM
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06-05-2015 2:05 AM
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Quote from: chenks76 "allowing"? you sound like a hoot.
Well I'm paying for it.
Quote from: nanotm Unless you're installing a corporate version there is no such thing as separate accounts for admins....
I wonder why Windows is plagued by viruses!
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