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Anti-virus???

My daughter asked me to look at her laptop, 'running a bit slow' she said.
The screen is covered with shortcuts to 'free to play' games. So I decided to run antivirus scans.
Microsoft security Essentials; PC is secure - no threats found.
Malware bytes :  1354 threats.
Ok, I know a lot of what Malware bytes picks up will be relatively harmless cookies etc, but the disparity is enormous.
Does this mean that MSE is inefficient, or that MB is hyper-efficient?
To be fair to my daughter, the AV databases were 600+days out of date. Shocked  I have had a word with her. Angry
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wykehamhouse
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Re: Anti-virus???

MSE is pretty poor these days. I don't trust it anymore, so I switched our PC to Avast.
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Re: Anti-virus???

I use Avast but to be honest it isn't exactly good at finding trojans and rootkits etc.
Malwarebytes however does a better job. It did find signs of an infection I suffered but even then couldn't get to some files. I had to play many clever tricks including editing certain registry keys in a text editor, renaming things in safe mode, to name a few. Eventually MB managed to pickup the rest of the infection and deal with most of it but it was a massive pain.
To be honest though, MB was superior to Avast for finding the infection. Avast didn't find anything which was utterly shocking.
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Re: Anti-virus???

I've always used mccafee which is free to some plusnet customers, however I use BT's version of mccafee
No problems, however a virus was found and it got rid of it.  Simples.
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Re: Anti-virus???

No antivirus software is perfect (free or otherwise), all will miss some malware, some will report false positives (McAfee famously removed a critical Windows XP system file a couple of years ago severely breaking many people's systems), some will identify minor tracking cookies as though they were dangerous viruses.
I still use MSE on some systems (the slowest netbooks for example), Avast on other systems but I also run Malware bytes regularlyly on all my systems to help pick up anything that's been missed by the others then I run occasional online scans using Norton, Trend etc.
I use Open DNS to help block bad sites and, most importantly I'm aware of the type of sites to avoid and never click links from emails from unknown sources (and often known sources).
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Re: Anti-virus???

A recent test of 6 packages put Bitdefender as the best of the bunch.

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Good article Strat, thanks.  Will look further into those. Try and get one that does all. But not even testing Malware bytes?
MrT
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Re: Anti-virus???

I bought a copy of Bitdefender and was very disappointed with it.
It would not run at all on my Windows XP Home laptop.
It ran OK on my Windows 7 desktop.
It was a pain on my Windows 8 laptop - it kept wanting me to restart the system to complete its' updates. This defeats the benefit of Windows 8 fast start-up!
I gave it a month and then reverted to Norton Internet Security. All  Smiley now.
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Re: Anti-virus???

If you are serious about a paid security package I tend to use this site for comparisons http://www.av-comparatives.org/
Personally I use Kaspersky Internet Security - I buy two 3 user licenses each year. Usually from Amazon but buying the older version as the activation is good for the newest version as well. Typical cost about £8 per user per year
That product is consistently in the top rank
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I use Kaspersky too and have for several years. Probably for the wrong historical reasons I have a strong hate of the Norton products and when I tried AVG it was a pain to use.
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Ditto to all AlaricAdair has said.

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Re: Anti-virus???

Malwarebytes finds thing it describes as PUPs, "Potentially Unwanted Programs".  This is stuff with a veneer of respectability that has a digital signature and will uninstall normally via (add/remove) Programs but which fiddles with your browser settings.  Lots of software will do this but there is a spectrum between Google at the good end down to qone8 at the bad end.
Although Malwarebytes identifies PUPs as "threats", they are NOT selected for removal by default because whether you want the software or not is a judgement call.  I think you will find Malwarebyte's "1354 threats" probably pertain to all the files from 4 or 5 bits of PUP software. 
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There certainly were a lot of 'PUPs', but also a lot of trojans and a few other things that I can't remember - deleted now. Smiley
Whatever they were, they were - not are, now. And laptop loads and runs a lot faster now.