Product Refresh Discussion
Quote from: Laser
Quote from: Mand The usage allowance on Pro wouldn't last long if you hammered P2P or VPN, hence the 'light' qualifications. The speeds would be excellent though.
It seems times have changed...
Quote from: http Broadband Premier is designed for all kinds of Internet activity, including file downloading, as with peer-to-peer or Binary USENET...
Broadband Premier Option 1 is provided with 20GB allowance
Times have indeed changed, it would be easy to use that entire allowance on streaming these days, whereas when we launched Premier things like iplayer were not even on the horizon. Bandwidth usage has steadily increased over the last few years, with more and more bandwidth-intensive applications becoming available, 20GB just don't go as far as it used to.
Quote from: Laser
Quote from: Mand I understand the point re Market 1 and 2, but the vast majority live in Market 3 areas, so raising prices here would defeat the objective of the wholesale reduction.
I'm thinking "vast majority" might be an overstatement, being as I've seen figures of around 70% being bandied about. (Although precious little in the way of easy-to-find official statements. It's almost like they don't want you to know...)
Anyway, that aside... The price differential seems very large - generally about £6.50. Is that a realistic figure of how much "discount" there is for that market, or do we have a situation where the Market 1 customers are subsidising headline-grabbing prices for the Market 3 regions?
And if it really is "vast majority" (i.e. 90% or so), then a 50p increase for the 90% would allow the remaining 10% to have nearly as low a price.
70% is a majority is it not?
IIRC the figure is just over 70%, but as you say, it's not easy to find.
I'm not able to give the actual costs, but the difference is significant. There'd be no logic in us subsidising Market 3 prices from Market 1 and 2 areas (as the prices are automatically higher, and we wouldn't want to raise them further artificially).
It may be a majority but it most definitely is not a "vast majority"!
As someone on a market 1 with no LLU and no scheduled 21CN date (my exchange wasn't even on the list before they pulled the dates) I'm not very happy about the situation.
As someone on a market 1 with no LLU and no scheduled 21CN date (my exchange wasn't even on the list before they pulled the dates) I'm not very happy about the situation.
OK, OK, my wording of 'vast majority' was maybe a little optimistic.
Most of the densely populated areas of the UK have Market 3 exchanges. Better?
There's a pic here which perhaps illustrates the point better.
My local exchange sounds a lot like yours, so I know how you feel.
Most of the densely populated areas of the UK have Market 3 exchanges. Better?
There's a pic here which perhaps illustrates the point better.
My local exchange sounds a lot like yours, so I know how you feel.
Hm, yeah. Great if you live in London or Manchester, but you're stuffed if you live anywhere else. 
How often (if at all) does the status of an exchange get reviewed? Mine has allegedly had just shy of the magic 10,000 lines for the last three years, yet they've built umpteen new housing developments in the area during that time...
How often (if at all) does the status of an exchange get reviewed? Mine has allegedly had just shy of the magic 10,000 lines for the last three years, yet they've built umpteen new housing developments in the area during that time...
Quote from: Mand OK, OK, my wording of 'vast majority' was maybe a little optimistic.
There is no such thing as a vast (or any other kind) majority.
A majority simply means "more than half"
