Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

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My guess (when dealing with Lawyers), would be that an official response might take a while to arrive still.
Before PN/BT are able to definitively say whether or not they got the report, they will probably need to check with ACS to make sure that the report really wasn't sent, (rather than it being sent but not received or overlooked by PN/BT). Of course, ACS will drag their feet and say they need to look into it etc.
Fluff, faff, stuff and nonsense... but there are lawyers involved, so they'll want to drag it out as long as possible.
I'd love to see a response quickly and see this topic "put out to pasture", but I am a realist, and I suspect that there will be a wait on our hands before anything is known publicly on these forums.
Mike

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I've had word from Fletch and I'm reliably informed that we sent a letter to ACS:Law today that contains reference to the report (which as I understand it hasn't been forthcoming).

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ISPs Free To Continue Deleting Evidence Against File-Sharers
http://torrentfreak.com/isps-free-to-continue-deleting-evidence-against-file-sharers-101207/

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Sweden’s highest court has rejected an application by an anti-piracy group which would force an ISP to hand over the identity of a file-sharing site operator. Antipiratbyrån wants TeliaSonera to reveal who is behind the SweTorrents BitTorrent tracker but the ISP has refused and taken its case all the way to the Supreme Court. That Court has now decided that the final decision lies with the European Court..... ....Sweden’s Supreme Court has now ruled that the final decision in the case lies with the European Court in Luxembourg, a decision that might take several years to arrive.

Although it relates to Sweden, it's a decision that the EU will no doubt make on behalf of all EU countries.

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@Bob
Thanks for the update, I look forward to the response from ACS Law, I hope Plusnet will publish what is received, as i notice that Plusnet were threatened not to release the details contained in the last report.
Lets hope we find out why out of 880 names given to ACS Law and Digiprotect,  only 3 people received letters?
Will Digiprotect hold on to the names and addresses until "the fuss dies down" and then issue more letters? or will Plusnet get an injunction to stop Digiprotect from using any of the names.
If they are not going to proceed, then will Digiprotect send letters to the people stating that the case is dropped?
I for one would like to see this whole saga come to an end and i can then "get back to my day job"!

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As much as we'd all like to see the back of it, I don't suppose it'll be over for a while yet. Not only will the legal side of things take forever (as is often the way) but there'll always be someone else ready to come along and pick up where ACS:Law left off. They'll try and do things slightly differently, or bend the rules to suit them somehow, or even find little loopholes in the law that let them get away with it, but one way or another I can see this saga going on for a while.

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As you rightly say this is unlikely to be the end of it. I would also ask if it hasn't already been,how long does Plus Net hold onto IP address records. From something I saw on the web it would appear indefintely. That being the case I will have to change providers at which stage I believe PN are obliged to delete my records. What a shame having been a customer for 8 years. Have to say the moment I saw BT getting involved with my ISP i.e. Madasafish I knew there would be nothing but trouble. As far as I am concerned BT are a blot upon the face of this earth and have caused me nothing but grief over the years :-[.

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ACS:Law had tried to obtain judgments in default against 8 defendants, but failed for a variety of reasons in each case. The judge in the Patents County Court criticised the nature of their claim and the way in which the applications were brought

http://www.francisdavey.co.uk/2010/12/acslaw-come-unstuck.html
It makes me wonder...do ACS:Law really know the law at all? Do they get anything right? They appear to do nothing but blunders. 

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Just as well I suppose!

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Interesting they couldn't prosecute people article

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Found on The Register - "Default judgement FAIL: ACS:Law muffs up in court" 

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Quote from: Bob

Quote from: davethir Can Plusnet confirm that they have not received the report from Digiprotect, regarding the 880 names given to them by Plusnet in regard to the Nov 09 NPO. Hi Dave, as far as I know (and I could be wrong) we haven't received this report. Unfortunately Fletch is on leave this week so it's unlikely that I'm going to be able to get you any more info until he returns.

Hi Plusnet, Just a friendly reminder that the deadline for Digiprotect to explain themselves has long since passed, Please ask BT's Lawyers to find out why they (Digiprotect) have blatantly ignored the deadline.
I for one would like to know before Christmas that the case against me has been dropped so i can have a merry one without this hanging over me 

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Maybe Plusnet / BT should take out an injunction against Digiprotect / ACS law and stop messing about and put the boot on the other foot.

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It appears very possible that ACS:Law may be attending court on January 17th 2011:
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWPCC/2010/18.html
So as to be suitably aware of the activities of this firm, and the fallout of the release of the personal data of your customers (which may even have been granted on the basis of an NPO to which they were not legally entitled - their clients not being original copyright owners or full licencees) - I trust that BT / Plusnet will be in attendance.
I note also that it's over 24 hours since davethir's message and that no-one yet been polite enough to provide him with any sort of response? On the 6th of December the excuse was that Fletch was 'on leave this week' - I know the weather's been bad - but I hope he's back by now. Even in his absence perhaps someone could give one of the legal team a sharp poke (not undeserved) and see if any answers are forthcoming.
If not, I can see that the forum regulars might feel the need to start making a nuisance of themselves.  

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As Plusnet/BT are not party to any of those claims (I believe) whilst BT could send someone to watch proceedings, I think it unlikely they could say or do anything at proceedings.

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Quote from: fourfourdevon

As Plusnet/BT are not party to any of those claims (I believe) whilst BT could send someone to watch proceedings, I think it unlikely they could say or do anything at proceedings.

That would put BT / Plusnet in exactly the same position that the public was in when they were sat in a court room watching BT and Plusnet's customers' personal data being given away uncontested.
They might not be able to contribute to the proceedings directly, but it would be wise for them to see exactly how the information they chose to release is used. It might help enlighten them as why their customers' details never should been released in the first place. They share much responsibility for the creation of this shambles - at the very least they should expect to face up to the aftermath.
They will probably want to be there in any case. I don't see how BT's public relations people will be able to put out a good press release, spinning the story to their advantage when the story hits the news - as it doubtless will - if they aren't there to see what happens.