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Greenby must be a PR disaster for PlusNet

mark752
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Greenby must be a PR disaster for PlusNet

After decades loyalty to PlusNet with near flawless service, and excellent support,  offloading their email service to the shambles that is Greenby has me questioning that loyalty and desperately looking for a new home for my email because Greenby has made my email a mess.  Missing sub-mailboxes, delete messages and then they all pop back into my inbox.  Daily authentication issues.  Sorry, just had to rant.  PlusNet, you've let me down big time, and you've lost one of your key reasons why I stayed with you - the email service and continuity of an email address. You've dumped that, so why should I be loyal now?  I'll shop around for the best priced deal when next renewal comes up.  PR disaster.

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Re: Greenby must be a PR disaster for PlusNet

It may be a PR disaster for Plusnet and its owner BT but it will not be as much of a setback as the 2024 fiasco when Ofcom fined BT £2.8 million for failing to provide customers with clear and simple contract information before signing up to a new deal.
As a result BT refunded or credited £18 million back to BT, EE and Plusnet customers and donated £440,000 across 17 charities where refunds or credits were not possible.

 

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It could yet turn out to be another regulatory issue for BT to address .

Plusnet publicly documented and communicated that this migration would be “seamless.” However, the lived experience of many customers appears to differ materially from that assurance.

Reported issues include:

- Loss of access to email accounts during and after migration
- Missing emails
- Inability to send or receive messages
- Extended service disruption
- Minimal or unclear communication during critical stages
- Difficulty accessing effective support from either Plusnet or Greenby

The core concern is not that a complex IT migration encountered difficulties. Rather, it is that customers were explicitly assured of a seamless transition, yet many experienced significant disruption with limited proactive communication or support.

This raises several serious questions:

1. Whether reasonable care and skill were exercised in planning and executing the migration.
2. Whether adequate contingency planning and data integrity safeguards were in place.
3. Whether communication to customers accurately reflected foreseeable risks.
4. Whether complaint handling during the disruption met expected regulatory standards.

For many customers, email is not a trivial feature but a long-standing communication channel linked to financial, medical, and personal correspondence. Where access was lost or data potentially compromised, the impact extends beyond inconvenience.
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Re: Greenby must be a PR disaster for PlusNet


@Protech wrote:
It could yet turn out to be another regulatory issue for BT to address .

Plusnet publicly documented and communicated that this migration would be “seamless.” However, the lived experience of many customers appears to differ materially from that assurance.



And since that brave sounding communication, they have gone totally silent on what has gone wrong - and it has, spectacularly, - and what they are doing/will do to rectify this fiasco.

I, for one, am not going to wait around for my personal car crash, although I suspect that due to the way I handle my email it may not be as spectacular - says me, hopefully.

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Disgruntled Plusnet and Greenby customers can complain directly to Ofcom. Ofcom will not fix the problem but it uses complaints to monitor industry behaviour and takes enforcement action where needed.
Complaints can be submitted online, by phone or by post.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/make-a-complaint/complaints-ofcom-deals-with

 

 

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I'm already about to make a move to ProtonMail - it might cost more than Greenby but the controls, spam filtering, extra mailboxes and useful aliases etc and associating my own domain to it, are worth the small cost for a personal plan.  But I might just make that complaint to OFCOM. 

 

Bottom line is this is a mistake for PlusNet because if I can get broadband at a better price at renewal from another ISP, the email inertia that held me with PlusNet - and to be fair, their decent prices and great support - is a tie factor that's now gone.  Which makes them having to be super competitive to keep my business, after almost 3 decades as a loyal customer. Hey ho.

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Re: Greenby must be a PR disaster for PlusNet

@redsox9

 

Hello

I followed your link to Ofcom, but couldn't find an online form.

Can you give a Link to the actual online form, if that's possible?

 

Many thanks, Catherine

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Try this:

Monitoring form | Ofcom

 

 

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PR Disaster for Plusnet? To be honest, I'm not sure they even care.

Just had my email migrated to Greenby. And like many others, several problems resulted. 

The first I knew of the migration was my emails not arriving for three days. Checked Plusnet webmail and I could see an email from Greenby welcoming me and giving instructions on what to do. Good good job that webmail was still available and I remembered to that it existed, otherwise I would still be in the dark. 

Tried to contact Greenby support, but of course you can't speak or chat to a human being. Just an AI bot, who gave me lots of things to try, none of which actually fixed the problem. Left to my own devices, I realised that the issue was due to my using an alias email address (because the one I was given years ago was not accepted by several companies) which was fine for logging into the Plusnet server, but not the Greenby one now. So, got my email working but that wasn't the end of it.

Won't bore you with the details of the other problems, but suffice to say that this supposedly transparent / seamless migration has been a disaster. What is most infuriating is that there is no way of engaging in a conversation with an actual person who can guide you through a solution. I am resorting to leaving comments on a 'ticket' and hoping that somebody might eventually get back to me. Made worse by the fact that support seem to be operating on Indian time (5.5 hours ahead of us) and don't do afternoons and evenings (our time).

One of the reasons I went for Plusnet in the first place was because of their supposed superior customer service with support you could speak to. After this debacle, I will be looking at other providers for email and broadband.

 

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@stephen2001  wrote: PR Disaster for Plusnet? To be honest, I'm not sure they even care.

 

They do care -- if they face a hefty fine. Plusnet's owner BT was fined in 2024 by Ofcom and spent £18 million refunding wronged BT, EE and Plusnet customers.

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Maybe. But it is a pretty sorry situation if companies have to receive hefty fines before they realise what they have done. And a token monetary amount of compensation to customers doesn’t really compensate if you have to spend dozens of hours (and sleepless nights) trying to fix a problem that was handed to you by nonsensical behaviour.

I wouldn't mind so much if Plusnet were one of those companies that said, "We provide whatever level of service we feel like and if you don't like it - go elsewhere!", but in the adverts they are always telling us how good their support is and how much their customers love them.

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Thanks, Redsox

I followed your link and filled in the webform it brought up.

So, let us see what comes forth, if anything.....

 

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Ofcom will only investigate if it gets enough complaints.

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Thought as much.

Well, let's hope that enough people stir themselves to actually complain.

 

Actually Ofcom have a whole load of info about 'how to complain' etc:

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/service-quality/problem-with-your-phone-provider.

It starts off with: "In some cases, where a complaint cannot be resolved with a provider,  you have a right to use an Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) scheme.

"The following explains more about ADR schemes, what they do and when you should contact them."

 

Although it says 'Phone provider' I couldn't find any alternative option to select 'Broadband', but I hope this

'Phone' selection should also cover broadband problems.

It's pretty time-consuming to get through (meaning I've just skimmed this for now).

 

So I can't be sure yet if that 'monitoring form' is the only or best way to complain,

or whether most of you have gone this ADR route (if it's different)?