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IP address not listed in devices in hub

Bgu2026
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IP address not listed in devices in hub

Hope someone can help- I want to schedule access for my son's PC. Initially found his IP address listed and set a schedule but needed to change the schedule so deleted it in order to create a new one. Now his IP is not showing on the device list. I can see his activity on the technical log. I’ve restarted the router and checked the WiFi settings are not private for him or changed. Any advice on how to get his device showing on the list again so I can set up access?
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PhilipHeyes
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Re: IP address not listed in devices in hub

Some Hubs / Routers do not show a device if it has an IP outside the DHCP range,
E.g . there is a static IP set on the PC or perhaps a Reserved IP. 

Given all mobiles and computers now have MAC Address Randomisation,
using MAC Filter List can be a very ineffective way of blocking access.

Bgu2026
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Re: IP address not listed in devices in hub

Thanks for your reply- but if it was picked up fine at first and now doesn’t appear without any settings being changed, it’s still a mystery… unless u have any other ideas? And I see the IP in the technical log. So why would it not be visible in the device list?
PhilipHeyes
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Re: IP address not listed in devices in hub

Is the IP in the DHCP allocation range ?

Is the MAC Address changing over time ?

Bgu2026
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Re: IP address not listed in devices in hub

Looking now I can see the MAC address has changed… how can I check if it is in DHCP range?
Dan_the_Van
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Re: IP address not listed in devices in hub

@Bgu2026 

Any IP address from 192.168.1.64 and 192.168.1.253 will be allocated by the Hub.

Everytime the device MAC address changes it will be allocated a different IP.

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Bgu2026
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Re: IP address not listed in devices in hub

Thanks for your help. I’m obviously way out of my depth here..! If I check the system settings on the PC, the Mac address should reflect the changed address? Because the IP is the same… I’ll have another look at everything and come back here.
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Re: IP address not listed in devices in hub

@Bgu2026 

Just an note, if the PC is connected using wired (LAN port) rather than WiFi then the MAC address should stay the same as MAC address randomising is for WiFi only, it is an extra layer of security when roaming using public Wifi systems.

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@Bgu2026 

If your son is PC savvy then you are probably wasting your time trying to schedule access via the router.

A far more effective solution is to set rules for when he can use it and if the rules are abused move the PC to where you can supervise access.

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Re: IP address not listed in devices in hub

@Bgu2026 

An option could be buy a router which has a guest wireless network and use that for his PC. The guest network can be turned off when not needed.

Clearly he would only be given that passkey for the guest network; the main network passkey would need to be changed from the default.

A second option could be a router that has Whitelisting as part of Access Control, all devices on your network would need adding to the list, once completed any new device would need allowing by you.

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