Getting voice / VOIP wrorking with a Fritz!Box 7530 router with FTTP

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I confess to being a little puzzled as to why apparently so many(?) people want to keep their 'landline'(!) going via VoIP...

but is there really so many ? we only see on here those that want to keep it. I suspect that is a very small percentage.

The only real reason I can see is to keep the landline phone number.

There are primarily two reasons for voip

1) keep the landline number

2) reduce the cost of a landline, rental and calls

In a non-business environment where people are happy to use mobiles , then neither of those reasons really apply. Where people have had the same landline number for many years and lots of their contacts use it , then 1) becomes important. In practice 2) only applies where a third party voip is used, since the main ISPs 'Digital voice' products aren't that much cheaper than a landline.

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@jab1 wrote:

@pvmb wrote:

'Who needs 'landline' VoIP?'

Anyone who has a bad mobile signal and doesn't have WI-FI calling - not all networks/plans allow it, although I accept most do these days. 

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True, of course. But the trend is clearly away from this kind of situation.

e.g. As I understand things, my Tesco Mobile smart phone wouldn't have been able to use Wi-Fi calling not so very long ago - it's 'PAYG' (Well! Another story there...) - only originally available with Tesco Mobile contract phone accounts. Now it can.

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I am one of the alleged small minority with a landline phone. I have a mobile phone to take out with me when I'm 'mobile'. It is also used for 2FA and minor purchases, say car parking aps and in the pub. I don't walk around the house with it permanently clapped to my ear awaiting irrelevant social media chit chat to interrupt me. It is put down in a place where it is regularly lost and I often have to ring it to find it! Only a select few know the number.

If people want to contact me they are instructed to call my landline number. This is received on a call guardian phone that filters the incoming calls and rejects spammers' automatic dialers. If I am out, callers are transferred to the answer phone. If callers get the answering machine they know that I will call them back at my earliest convenience, not theirs.. If I am around I have 4 handsets distributed around the house, so there is always one within easy reach.

I know that this is not the trendy way to do it, I guess that it's a generation thing.

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@pvmb wrote:

I confess to being a little puzzled as to why apparently so many(?) people want to keep their 'landline'(!) going via VoIP...

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I want to keep my landline number as I use the home phone & also the alarm system is linked in to the home phone.

I also want both my broadband & VOIP service with the same provider, something Plusnet doesn't do & EE where jokingly expensive even with the Plusnet customer discount applied & then there is the annoying yearly price rise. Plus going with EE would mean dealing with Openreach, something I refuse to ever do again.

As an added bonus I have to say the Fritzbox 7530AX is a fantastic router & also extremely easy to set up with a Fritzbox 3000AX repeater for a mesh network. 

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@Baldrick1 wrote:

I am one of the alleged small minority with a landline phone. I have a mobile phone to take out with me when I'm 'mobile'. It is also used for 2FA and minor purchases, say car parking aps and in the pub. I don't walk around the house with it permanently clapped to my ear awaiting irrelevant social media chit chat to interrupt me.

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Nor me. But then I didn't do that with my landline phone either - why would I?

I find Google Maps really useful when out and about with my new smartphone (I don't mean I get lost a lot...), for answering: "When is this bloody bus/train going to arrive?".

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@Baldrick1 wrote:

If people want to contact me they are instructed to call my landline number. This is received on a call guardian phone that filters the incoming calls and rejects spammers' automatic dialers.

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Funnily enough I don't suffer from spammers etc. But that's another story...

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@Baldrick1 wrote:

If I am out, callers are transferred to the answer phone. If callers get the answering machine they know that I will call them back at my earliest convenience, not theirs.. 

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Have you not heard? They went and invented 'answer phones' for mobiles, too! In fact, I have had one of those on my old Nokia 1100 2G mobile phone that I have used for the last ~20 years. What will they think of next? 🙂

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@Baldrick1 wrote:

I know that this is not the trendy way to do it, I guess that it's a generation thing.

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Could be. But, then again, I'm nearer 80 than 70. 😒

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"landline" number can still be required for areas with poor mobile signal, and in my case where i have people who know my landline number and are scattered far and wide but dont know my mobile number - and contacting all of them to advise this is my new number would be difficult.

 I narrowed my choulces down to two providers for Voip, Voipfne and Andres and arnold, A+A offer a cheap line "rental" price but no inclusive minutes/packages, Voipfone offer cheap packages with included minutes.

 If you or anyone else in your household doesn't use the landline, but you need to keep your number, then A+A

If you or someone else in the household uses the landline for a few outgoing calls, then Voipfone 

 If you only make a handful of calls on voipfone then it may be cheaper to move to A+A, its a case of monitoring your bills

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@pvmb wrote:

I confess to being a little puzzled as to why apparently so many(?) people want to keep their 'landline'(!) going via VoIP...

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1 - The VOIP with a few calls (A&A) is far less than the ~£10 minimum monthly fee for an owned-device mobile.  Yes I have one but it is PAYG at about £5 *a year*

2 - The VOIP does not need charging. All hard wired.

3 - The VOIP just works, no fiddling about with login codes and finger prints to try and answer a call before they ring off

4 - The VOIP handset is light and comfortable to hold with a proper speaker and microphone

5 - Number retention

6 - House is useless for mobile signal - foil insulated walls and older devices.

I guess those argualnts fall down once you decide to pay £50 a month for a new £1000 phone on 3 year HP-contract and they throw the calls in for free

[mwwagain]

@mwwagain

Well, my new smart phone cost a whopping £69 (to buy) with a £10 voucher thrown in for starters... 🙂

P.S. Going forward, all phone calls are likely going to be "free". Because nobody will actually be making any more phone calls (in the traditional, circuit switched sense of the word).

[#9]

Phones as building based tools will become extinct. Their only future will be company based.

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Thanks for all the help on this. They decided they don't need a landline any more. In their case, they have some relatives who still call the landline number but that can be mitigated it...

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@spile wrote:

Phones as building based tools will become extinct. Their only future will be company based.

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Businesses use phone numbers to hang marketing info (e.g., ads) onto. What happens to the Yellow Pages, which are useful guides to local resources?

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@mechanic123 Yellow Pages has not been printed for a few years now - don't know if there is an online version.