cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

Static IP gone

FIXED
MisterW
Superuser
Superuser
Posts: 16,119
Thanks: 6,119
Fixes: 441
Registered: ‎30-07-2007

Re: Static IP gone

@beeceegee so was anything else connected to the router ?

Superusers are not staff, but they do have a direct line of communication into the business in order to raise issues, concerns and feedback from the community.

beeceegee
Pro
Posts: 625
Thanks: 83
Fixes: 4
Registered: ‎27-11-2012

Re: Static IP gone

@MisterW 

At a rough count:

The one wired computer, a couple of laptops, two iphones, 1 x Buffalo Terastation, HP Printer, Gigaset N300 voip, 3 x Ring cameras, a Roku stick (which keeps connecting to the rogue network even though it is shows as my wifi),  1 x Tomtom satnav, an air purifier and I finally got the dishwasher reconnected.

Nothing new in there (as in all older than a few months, this problem only surfaced on Sunday we think)

Brian

 

MisterW
Superuser
Superuser
Posts: 16,119
Thanks: 6,119
Fixes: 441
Registered: ‎30-07-2007

Re: Static IP gone

Does anything have both a wired and wireless interface ?

I'm thinking, could  something have a wireless connection to the BT hub with it bridged to a wired interface , connected to your hub ?

Superusers are not staff, but they do have a direct line of communication into the business in order to raise issues, concerns and feedback from the community.

bobpullen
Community Gaffer
Community Gaffer
Posts: 16,926
Thanks: 5,008
Fixes: 317
Registered: ‎04-04-2007

Re: Static IP gone


@beeceegee wrote:

Definitely not connected to someone else's wifi and I don't have any powerline WAPS. ( There are only 3 other wifi networks in range, and mine are obvious from the names).


Do you have any Powerline adapters at all?

Bob Pullen
Plusnet Product Team
If I've been helpful then please give thanks ⤵

Protech
Aspiring Pro
Posts: 196
Thanks: 76
Fixes: 5
Registered: ‎26-09-2017

Re: Static IP gone

@beeceegee 

If you have an android phone handy, I suggest downloading this network Analyzer app

and running the LAN scanning option. This will show you all the devices on your lan. 

The issues you are seeing are symptomatic of having multiple Dhcp servers active on your 

network. 

HTH 

  • IMG_20240820_203824.jpg

     

You can check out but you can never leave ( easily)
Townman
Superuser
Superuser
Posts: 23,702
Thanks: 10,006
Fixes: 168
Registered: ‎22-08-2007

Re: Static IP gone

Bob,

I asked that question (Ethernet over power) and was advised that there are no WAPs ... though an ethernet 'bridge' over power presents the same risk of cross connection with a neighbour.

Looks as though there are two DHCP servers in here! [ @Protech types faster ]

Superusers are not staff, but they do have a direct line of communication into the business in order to raise issues, concerns and feedback from the community.

beeceegee
Pro
Posts: 625
Thanks: 83
Fixes: 4
Registered: ‎27-11-2012

Re: Static IP gone

@bobpullen 

Thanks for replying

Two old Solwise powerline adapters, neither of which has wireless. Forgot all about them as they are well hidden behind a shredder and the printer. Only there to connect the printer, as some devices seem to prefer a printer which presents as wired rather than wireless (no, me neither Huh ) I've taken them out and reconfigured the printer for wireless (it has acquired a correct ip address). 

 

Brian

beeceegee
Pro
Posts: 625
Thanks: 83
Fixes: 4
Registered: ‎27-11-2012

Re: Static IP gone


@Townman wrote:

Bob,

I asked that question (Ethernet over power) and was advised that there are no WAPs ... though an ethernet 'bridge' over power presents the same risk of cross connection with a neighbour.

Looks as though there are two DHCP servers in here! [ @Protech types faster ]


Sorry about that, forgot about the two ethernet over power as I was thinking purely wireless at the time. I did have two wireless bridges (TP-Link TL-WR702N and TP-Link TL-WA890EA but disconnected these as soon as the problem arose. Didn't cure the problem.

Would be ironic if it turns out to be the powerline adapters as they can barely speak to each other less that 10ft apart never mind the neighbours

Brian

bobpullen
Community Gaffer
Community Gaffer
Posts: 16,926
Thanks: 5,008
Fixes: 317
Registered: ‎04-04-2007

Re: Static IP gone

Fix

Whether the Powerline adapters have wireless capabilities or not is irrelevant. If not encrypted with a unique passphrase, then there is still the potential for cross-communication with another set of adapters that are on a neighbouring electrical circuit. I'm struggling to understand how your symptoms can be down to much else to be honest.

See here. I would recommend you completely disconnect any Powerline equipment and evaluate whether or not the symptoms persist.

Bob Pullen
Plusnet Product Team
If I've been helpful then please give thanks ⤵

beeceegee
Pro
Posts: 625
Thanks: 83
Fixes: 4
Registered: ‎27-11-2012

Re: Static IP gone

Thanks so much everyone for your help.

Everything this morning is as it should be, and the powerline adapters are in the bin (sorry, small electrical recycling). They must have been in service well over a decade, maybe even contemporary with the article @bobpullen posted. I know I was aware of encryption back then but obviously did not bother to implement.  It probably wouldn't have mattered at the time as I doubt our neighbours then had networks. So they just sat there hidden away until last weekend when presumably a neighbour plugged in another unencrypted adapter...

Brian