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From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

jab1
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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

SPF is already set at sub-domain level, and in combination with the protocols set at parent domain level should be sufficient.

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

Thanks @jab1 , maybe I should have made that clear in my post.

Superusers are not staff, but they do have a direct line of communication into the business in order to raise issues, concerns and feedback from the community.

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

Thanks - so it seems that Plusnet has configured it's servers correctly. Therefore, is it solely a case of Microsoft configuring something correctly at their end?

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

Expecting Microsoft to back out a change that was intentionally made to curtail spam is wishful thinking.

Typically changes of requirements by the likes of Microsoft or Oracle or Amazon do not go away.

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

My expectation is not for Microsoft to "back out the change", it is for them to correctly configure their settings to accord with e-mail providers like Plusnet who use a sub-domain approach for e-mail addresses.

Why is this a problem, given from what we've read earlier in this thread, Plusnet is not alone in having these problems.

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@ebforum wrote:

 

Why is this a problem, given from what we've read earlier in this thread, Plusnet is not alone in having these problems.


This 'reducing spam' claim is very questionable, IMO, especially when the other big player in this fiasco, with similar claims for their action - Gmail - allow their Googlegroups to actively post spam. 

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

It therefore begs the question......

Is there a way forward for Plusnet e-mails?

I'd prefer an honest answer directly from Plusnet so that those of us who are impacted can think about making other arrangements. However, to change e-mail provider is going to be a very significant issue for Plusnet's users.

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

@ebforum Unless things have ground to a halt - which I doubt - there is still work being done to resolve this issue, but I can understand why it may appear not be the case. A lot of inter-company discussion is not reported to customers, for various reasons.

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

It would really help if James_B can provide further information given the date of the last update in the service information is as below. I'd like to be informed specifically on:

1 is Plusnet's e-mail service configured correctly?

2 if 1 is correct, does Microsoft accept that the problem resides in their e-mail service?

3 if 2 is correct, when does Microsoft intend on implementing a working solution?

4 if 2 is not accepted by Microsoft, what is the way forward.

 

Update 15/07/2025

We're aware that some customers are still seeing delivery failures when sending emails to multiple recipients with Microsoft-owned domains. As the original issue has been resolved, a new support ticket has been opened to investigate this specific problem. 

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

1) .As there don't appear to be issues sending to other email platforms other than MS ones, I would suggest the answer is yes.

2) and 3) Ask Microsoft.

4) Who knows - what would you suggest?

 

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

5 What could be done to the Plusnet email platform to prevent our emails appearing to be one sender i.e. more like most other ISPs / mail providers ?


These are not criticisms.

We are all wishing to avoid the pain that comes with being forced into a change of email provider,
and I mean to a 123Reg domain etc not to Greenby.  

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

@jab1 in answer to your response below:

2) and 3) Ask Microsoft.

4) Who knows - what would you suggest?

I expect the service provider, Plusnet, to advise on 2 and 3. I am not a technician so your answer to 4 is not helpful and once again flippant in consideration of the problems Plusnet e-mail customers are facing. I expect Plusnet and Microsoft to jointly agree the way forward and let its customers know.

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@Townman wrote:

Microsoft have not offered any answers...


For your, and @MisterW's, information, my experience today is different to what I've seen before.

I sent a message from my [name]@[accountName].plus.com address, using Win10 Pro/Outlook 2016/POP3, TO one address @live.com and one address @outlook.com.

The message to the @live.com address (which was the first one I'd entered into the TO field) bounced almost instantly but the one to the @outlook.com address did not produce a bounce.

That's progress of sorts since previously when I sent to both of these addresses at the same time both messages would bounce.

The reason for the failure of the one that bounced was as before (Spf= Pass , Dkim= Fail , DMARC= Pass).

 

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

I have just sent one e-mail with my test Outlook.com account and my wife's Gmail account in the To field.

Outlook.com bounced it back with Dkim= Fail. Gmail accepted it.

This is the same as a week ago.

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Re: From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender

I don't know if this is relevant, but I have a mailing list with two hotmails and an msn address, and the whole list is blind copied and sent using linux/kmail. Fairly early in this whole discussion all three bounced, but I think it has been OK since. More recently I asked one of the hotmail recipients about my last 3 messages, and he had received them. He had me on his safe senders list because of earlier problems, and he said they came with a pink banner saying "The digital signature on this message can't be verified. This message has a digital signature, but it wasn't verified because the S/MIME extension isn't installed. Please contact your IT administrator for help installing the extension."