LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
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LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
20-02-2012 5:47 PM
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I should stress that this is definately NOT a complaint against Plusnet, but I would like to make everyone aware of my findings.
I like to watch BBC iPlayer occasionally, when there's nothing else on.
While I have access via other machines, I would like to make more use of my TV which has a BBC iPlayer widget.
My TV is a LG 42LE5900 and I have always been concerned with the Broadband Usage it consumed, as it seemed excessive in comparison with the BBC iPlayer file sizes
per hour, of approximately 650MB and 1.3GB for SD and HD respectively.
With this in mind I decided to do some testing/monitoring, as follows:
My first test was performed on 25/01/12, that of viewing "BBC Click", which was in Standard Quality and 24 Min. 15 Sec. long:
Via the LG 42LE5900. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 972.52 MB . . . (40.10 MB/Min) . . and very excessive.
Via Laptop . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 272.26 MB . . . (11.23 MB/Min)
Download for iPlayer Desktop . . . . . . . .. 262 MB . . . . (10.80 MB/Min)
The above test was carried out while on my old "Plusnet Option 3" Package with 30 GB Usage allowance, when I usually managed speeds of between 5 and 6 Mb/s.
I have since upgraded to Plusnet's Fibre Extra Package with 120 GB Usage Allowance, and usual speed of about 32.5 Mb/s.
Although I have performed several additional tests, I will just quote the results from one performed on 17/02/12.
Again using SD BBC iPlayer content, of approx. 125 Min long the resulting usage was a colossal 11GB, trust me, this is not a typo.
This gives a usage of 90.11 MB/Min.
The original 40.10 MB/Min is equivalent to a download speed of 5.347 Mb/s,
and the new 90.11 MB/Min is equivalent to a download speed of 12.01 Mb/s.
My initial thoughts were that the LG connection was max'ing-out whatever streaming bandwidth was available to it.
That is, until I did a 10 Minute test with HD content which used 1196MB, or 119.6 MB/Min and an equivalent download speed of 15.95 Mb/s.
I sincerely hope that I'm not the only person that finds these statistics totally rediculous and unaceptable.
I would be interested to hear other user's experiences on similar equipment.
Also, is there anything that Plusnet can do to determine just what LG are doing with the stream between the BBC's servers and the TV?, and dissuade them from doing it,
in favour of leaving the stream unmodified.
I have no doubt that a more fully equipt router would help, i.e to knobble the streaming bandwith available to specific MAC addresses.
The way it is now, makes the LG BBC iPlayer unusable at worst, and extremely wasteful of resources at best, both with respect to users allowances and to the valuable
bandwidth that Plusnet and other ISPs have to purchase/provide.
I was considering raising a ticket to highlight this situation, but feel that the wider community needs to be made aware also, and of course there's the fact that it isn't any
fault of Plusnet.
Mal.
Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
20-02-2012 5:52 PM
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So, it's an HD TV, and is downloading the content at HD rates, but displaying in SD?
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Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
20-02-2012 6:22 PM
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20-02-2012 6:36 PM
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A programme (streaming size unknown) requires 1100 MBytes to store as a mp4 file; it is 1 hour long and stored as 1280 x 720, 25 fps "HD" definition.
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Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
20-02-2012 7:06 PM
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Yes, it is a HD TV
Yes it is SD BBC iPlayer content, in the most part that I have tested with, but it's impossible for me to tell what processing, if any, that LG are doing to the stream.
It does display as SD as far as I'm concerned, there is no discernible up scaling that I can see, or want.
I have also tested with HD, which is worse again, usage wise, great picture though.
Mal
Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
20-02-2012 7:16 PM
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Sorry I just thought I'd add,
BBC iPlayer SD content should stream at about 11 MB/Min or 1.5 Mb/s
and HD content should stream at about 22 MB/Min or 3 Mb/s
These are the rates you get to a laptop or PC browser.
All the Best
Mal
Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
20-02-2012 7:18 PM
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I use BBC iPlayer a lot, series auto downloading, to my iMac, not TV, most days as backup to TV, then wiped if recorded OK on PVR.
A couple of days ago, I got a BBC iPlayer pop-up, warning me that at 18gb I "may be approaching the download limit set by some ISP's "
I should have screen grabbed it, to show you.
Nice considerate BBC.
Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
20-02-2012 7:20 PM
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Quote from: cheeser @Kelly
Sorry I just thought I'd add,
BBC iPlayer SD content should stream at about 11 MB/Min or 1.5 Mb/s
and HD content should stream at about 22 MB/Min or 3 Mb/s
These are the rates you get to a laptop or PC browser.
All the Best
Mal
My stats, downloading, not viewing.
My download speed (not streaming) for both SD and HD of BBC iPlayer content is around 15mb/s which is probably more a function of my usual PlusNet download speed of 16.6mb/s
Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
26-02-2012 4:11 AM
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08-03-2012 11:57 PM
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Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
09-03-2012 10:56 AM
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Have you noticed this any other nights or just last night? Will you let us know if you see any funkiness over the weekend?
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Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
09-03-2012 11:06 AM
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09-03-2012 12:52 PM
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09-03-2012 1:09 PM
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upon further investigation it will be because you are on unlimited where iPlayer desktop is limited to 2Mbps between 6pm-midnight.
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Re: LG BBC iPlayer Excessive Usage Statistics
09-03-2012 2:39 PM
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Now I do.
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