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Heavy Usage whilst idling

fxbronte
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Heavy Usage whilst idling

My problem is that since yesterday, my computer is downloading and uploading whilst I am on a single page, say “view my Usage”. Today I left my laptop on my ‘Usage’ page, and when I returned a few hours later my usage had jumped by 200MB, and indeed the light in the router was flashing, yet if I come out of internet explorer, it stops.
I do not have wireless on, I have run a full virus scan, checked that nothing else was running, checked that there was not any MS download, and finally rang PN support, but they say they could not help either.
Please, has anybody any ideas for what is causing  all these phantom activity.
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JamesM
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

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fxbronte
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

I am aware of the delay, but I think that it must be a virus because I see 4/5 tcp connections to IE that cannot be mine.
I have done a full scan with AVG but it has not found anything. I think that whatever it is, is my IE because the phantom connection happen only when I am on line using IE.
I would be grateful for any advice, as it is eating up my allowance rapidly, as well as slowing me down.
jojopillo
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

Hi fxbronte,
It could be a number of things, tool bars, plug-ins. What page where you on at the time? Have you got updates to warn you before downloading as there's a lot they could be using if you haven't.
Jojo Smiley
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

Is there a windows/office update going on in the background, that only starts up when IE starts? Or perhaps the virus checker is downloading new data.
There is a tool called Wireshark, whose job is to capture all the network packets sent in & out of your machine, and to help you analyse where they are coming from/going to, and what they are for. Plusnet recommend using this tool when analysing slow performance caused by traffic management. The tool can be equally used to see what rogue connections are being made, and where the data is coming from or going to. You may need something of a techie head on to use it though...
If IE continues to get in the way, an alternative solution might be just to stop using it, and install something like Firefox or Google Chrome instead.
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fxbronte
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

It happens with any page, for example 'view my usage'. If I try to kill them with TCPview they disappear and a new/same set connects
The only additional toolbar I habe is Google
bengolia
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

did you try a scan running in safe mode? often new gen viruses/worms come with a rootkit so it won't be detected by an AV (it takes about 10 minutes to compile a virus undetected by the most recently updated AV) nor you will see the process running
also keep en eye in case it's windows update downloading packages
fxbronte
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

WWWOBAT
Thank you. I run wireshark, but as you said it is understanding what it means, one entry eg
Time                            Source                  Destination                                      Info
0.076888             209.85.147.103       192.168.x.x TCP        https > pdap-np [ACK] Seq=1 Ack=1648 Win=65535 Len=0.
where 192.168.x.x I think it is me

But in any case knowing where is going or coming is secondary, the root of the problem is what is initiating these connections?.
Gus
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

209.85.147.103 = google after a quick Google, have you got that nasty google addon?
edit: meh missed the reply with the google addon reply, would suggest you kill it
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fxbronte
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

Gus
As far as Iknow I only have Gmail, and IGoogle that I have had for years. Where are the add ons? How do I remove them?. Thanks
Gus
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

In IE via Tools/Manage add ons
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fxbronte
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

Gus
Thank you, I think that you indicated where the problem was.
For some reason (I have not done it) my Google toolbar privacy settings had been changed to send information to google, and the additional setting of “send usage statistics to Google” to  ticked. As soon as removed the said settings the additional connections have disappear. Thank you again.
WWWombat
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Re: Heavy Usage whilst idling

Quote from: fxbronte
WWWOBAT
Thank you. I run wireshark, but as you said it is understanding what it means, one entry eg
Time                            Source                   Destination                                      Info
0.076888             209.85.147.103       192.168.x.x TCP        https > pdap-np [ACK] Seq=1 Ack=1648 Win=65535 Len=0.
where 192.168.x.x I think it is me

But in any case knowing where is going or coming is secondary, the root of the problem is what is initiating these connections?.

Yup - 192.168.x.x addresses are inside your LAN, so is likely to be yourself. In this case, the other address is important.
The trick is, once you know the IP Address, finding out who owns or uses the machine behind it. Gus used "Google" with the address, which worked well (take a look at http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/209.85.147.103).
Other ways to help identify the owner can be command-line tools like "nslookup" or "tracert", both of which can help find domain names for those addresses.
Once you know who you are connecting to, you can probably guess what the application is that is doing it. And I see you've worked that out now... 200MB is a bit cheeky for a toolbar, isn't it?
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