Unlimited broadband - what does it mean exactly?
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Unlimited broadband - what does it mean exactly?
25-10-2014 4:58 PM
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This one http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/broadband_speeds.shtml has a graphic showing that all traffic gets line speed all the time. Whereas this one http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/traffic_management.shtml says there is traffic management depending on what type of traffic it is. How can there be traffic management while at the same time all traffic is getting line speed all the time...it seems to contradictory?
In particular if I want to use only P2P will I get full line speed (17M for me) all the time if I'm not using any other type of traffic?
Also if I use a VPN, Cyberghost in this case which uses port 9081, will it be permanently speed limited?
Thanks for any help.
Re: Unlimited broadband - what does it mean exactly?
25-10-2014 5:54 PM
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There is still traffic management to give one type of traffic priority over another, noticeable if you are receiving more than one type of traffic and the same time, and across the plusnet network as a whole, in case plusnet don't have enough bandwidth to meet the total demand from all their customers.
Re: Unlimited broadband - what does it mean exactly?
25-10-2014 8:17 PM
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25-10-2014 8:39 PM
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Also, the Advertising Standards Agency allows services described as unlimited if:
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- The legitimate user incurs no additional charge or suspension of service as a
consequence of exceeding any usage threshold associated with an FUP, traffic
management policy or the like; and- Provider-imposed limitations that affect the speed or usage of the service are
moderate only and are clearly explained in the marketing communication.
http://www.asa.org.uk/News-resources/Hot-Topics/Broadband-advertising.aspx
Re: Unlimited broadband - what does it mean exactly?
25-10-2014 11:31 PM
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In normal circumstances, if you were only using P2P then that would get your full available bandwidth.
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Re: Unlimited broadband - what does it mean exactly?
26-10-2014 9:59 AM
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26-10-2014 10:05 AM
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jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: Unlimited broadband - what does it mean exactly?
26-10-2014 2:59 PM
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26-10-2014 10:00 PM
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(Can you imagine how how huge the buffers would have to be to store and forward packets for 750,000+ connected users?)
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Re: Unlimited broadband - what does it mean exactly?
27-10-2014 1:40 AM
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27-10-2014 6:31 AM
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27-10-2014 11:18 AM
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Quote from: RPMozley in the terms of the original OP's question there's no "throttling" going on.
If I've interpreted the foregoing discussion correctly I'd have to disagree.
Take a simple example. Say I'm streaming video while simultaneously downloading P2P and those are the only two network activities but each individually would take full line speed. According to the webpage about traffic management the P2P bit rate will be reduced, i.e. throttled, to accomodate the higher priority video stream. Yes, the total line rate is constant, assuming no network problems, but there is undeniable throttling of the lower priority P2P traffic occuring.
Of course the customer has a degree of control over this throttling as, in this case, if they wish to finish their P2P download at full line rate they have to stop the video streaming traffic and then (if i'm right?) the P2P will get full line speed. I believe that's correct and if so can understand why plusnet would traffic manage in this way to prioritise critical network traffic and stop the video stuttering or VOIP crackling etc. but their web pages didn't make that at all clear to me.
Am I right?
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27-10-2014 11:21 AM
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Re: Unlimited broadband - what does it mean exactly?
27-10-2014 12:43 PM
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Most customers regard 'throttling' as an arbitrary fixed cap on speeds, in terms of this definition that's not what's going on I'm sure you will agree. That's why I object to the use of the word "throttling" as people who have not understood the explanation (which, I might add, you have done correctly) will incorrectly assume there's a fixed cap on speeds, after all this is an open forum for all to see.
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27-10-2014 2:11 PM
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Quote from: RPMozley Most customers regard 'throttling' as an arbitrary fixed cap on speeds for some traffic types even if the line isn't being fully utilised
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