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I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

billnotben
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎04-05-2011 12:15 AM

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I'm not complaining about the speed, 3meg works for me, but it would be nice if the collars and cuffs matched.

By that I sincerely wished for it to match at the 3000 plus end not at the 2000 where it seems to have moved back to now.
If you're still in a helpful mood Joanne how about kicking my banding into touch. I see no reason why it should remain.
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎04-05-2011 9:09 AM

Hi billnotben,
I've replied to your original thread.
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎06-05-2011 2:14 PM

How about getting Bob to explain this http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/plusnet/t/4000508-re-ip-profile-question.html
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   In reply to a post by jelv:
   I believe there is some sort of DLM trial going on that may mean some users see other speeds for their IP Profile.
Yep, aka 'bRAS Quantification'. I think it's being applied to around 40% of our circuits at present. '.
as putting 'bRAS Quantification' into Google doesn't help at all
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎06-05-2011 3:13 PM

Hi Jim,
bRAS quantification is a change to the way BT assign IP profiles and is currrently applied to about about 40% of the ADSL2+ MSANs.
bRAS quantification will assign the proilfe a lot closer to the sync speed than at present and the profile will be applied instantly after a sync event, so no more waiting 72 hours for the DLM to pick up the new sync speed. As yet it's not fully implemented but believe it will be fully rolled out around August.
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎06-05-2011 4:54 PM

Since I am apparently one of the 40% because or the funny IP profile it appears to be 21CN not ADSL2
Also how about putting me on the Plusnet trial (which I don't know about  :-X) to match it  exactly
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎06-05-2011 5:27 PM

HI Jim,
It's not a trial in that respect it's just something that's been rolled out gradually.
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎06-05-2011 5:31 PM

In which case the Plusnet system is going to need a major overhaul as people won't be too chuffed at having to wait for up to 11 hours 55 minutes for an increase and then have it as less than the BT figure. This was the apparently non existent trial I was referring to  Grin
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎06-05-2011 6:18 PM

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aka 'bRAS Quantification'.

The word normally used for this kind of process is "quantisation", though even that still doesn't help in Google.
It is the mapping of a large set of numbers down to a small set, and is, for example, used during A-D conversions to translate voice->date for your phone calls, or for music->data for CDs.
The mapping BT use currently means that some unlucky people could be losing 1Mbps off their line speed, and the average loss for everyone on ADSL2+ over 8Mbps will be 0.5Mbps.
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎06-05-2011 6:19 PM

Are you referring to the BT test figures where you no longer get a "proper" ip profile but an odd number instead?
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎06-05-2011 6:20 PM

Yup
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎06-05-2011 6:25 PM

Had that for a few weeks. Did wonder what it was all about. The first time it appeared I got a higher that usual download speed which seemed to agree with the odd bit extra.
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎07-05-2011 10:05 PM

I really like this new system.
Sync increased to 4832kbps from 4384kbps at 10.10 this morning and just checked - my IP profile is 4262kbps (Plusnet version 4000kbps) result 4442kbps from BT test
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎07-05-2011 11:07 PM

You have to wonder why the change?
If can't be customer pressure because any internet search will show complaints going back many years.
Must be something cheap, technical, and saving BT lots of money. Smiley
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎08-05-2011 8:50 AM

@Old Jim
Has your margin reduced like mine has?
No one has to agree with my opinion, but in the time I have left a miracle would be nice.
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Re: I am really cheesed of with the IP profile system

‎08-05-2011 12:39 PM

These changes sound great, in particular the immediate IP profile updates. This will make experimenting with different routers, settings and filters far less painful, even if Plusnet continue with their current system (although I hope it could be changed somehow - perhaps keep the current delayed update for everybody but add a manual reset option to force the PN profile to sync with BTs?)
I have two questions:
1) Will every exchange get this, or is it dependent upon the equipment in use within it?
2) Does the entire range of IP profiles get the additional steps (i.e. all the way from 512kb up to 24Mb) or just select ones? Although I'm sure people with a 10Mb+ connection are going to appreciate not losing 0.5Mb, when you get to the lower end (2Mb and below), even 0.1Mb extra would be welcomed.
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