Openreach ONT box power lead

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@andyt1970 

So why not follow the same route as the copper and have the ONT installed in the dining room?

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@andyt1970 wrote:

 how would the power lead from the ONT which he'd install on the inside of the gable end wall - reach the other single power socket if it's only 1m long?.

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Two options, either a mains extension lead or a low voltage extension lead as previously mentioned.

[#3]

Pole at the end of the street

[#4]

@Baldrick1 Just too long a route with archways and two doors to overcome with very long ethernet leads. Plus (drum roll), there isn't a power socket anywhere near where the BT socket is in the dining room.

Sorry for sounding nit picky and ungrateful, it's NOT my house and my OH doesn't want loads of extension leads, cabling, power points etc etc .

[#5]

@andyt1970 

You're not nit picking at all, I was just questioning whether you had explored all the options for making the job easier, not more complicated.

I understand the need to keep OH happy. In order for me to install my Router in the hall, with the ONT in the dining room I had to install a CAT 6 cable from the downstairs dining room back outside, along the outside wall then up an existing conduit (I have also hidden ground level to roof soffit level Ethernet cables by fixing them to the back of drain pipes). to the loft. From here, across the loft, down into a bedroom built in wardrobe, through the floor into the kitchen behind a tall built in oven unit. It then goes down behind the oven, under the kitchen units and through a wall into the hall. Not a bit of cable is to be seen.

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This topic has been moved from  Full Fibre to Everything Else

[#7]

@andyt1970 

Can you draw on the picture where you want the fibre cable to go externally? I'm trying to get a picture of what's required.

If you are not the owner do you have your landlords permission to install FTTP and, more specically, to put the ONT in your desired location?

What is the distance between the wall and the cupboard?

Brian

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The current phone line comes from the pole, fastened to a "hook" under eaves, then it comes down a few feet, above the front door, all the way round the side of the house (damp gable end wall), round corner above back door then into bedroom (to the right of the box room). I thought FIBRE would follow same route, cabled against pointing (i.e. off the ground), then round and this time into the box room, pictured.

 

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Sorry, cable out route from ONT box round to front of house diagram now added

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@andyt1970 

Thanks for that.

My initial reaction is the OR engineer will say no to your desired location. Fibre optic canle doesn't bend to well so would stick out when going round the corners of the house. Perhaps more to the point OR being OR have a Health and Saftely rule that when working at height ladders ladders must be fixed to the wall. This entails (I believe) drilling two small holes to attach the ladder to. All in all, this leads to too much work (time) to get to where you want to go.

As previously stated you just never know until the day. In this instance you must have a back up location chosen in case they do say no.

You might convince them to go round the side (one corner). ONT on the gable wall using the power socket near the door.

Brian

[#12]

Really?

Anyone else on here also think they'll refuse to take it round the house to the back (as drawn)? We'll end up cancelling this whole fiasco if they can't.

What happens with the billing then? 

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@andyt1970 IIRC, the minimum bend radius for FTTP  cables is 20 degrees.

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@andyt1970 

I'm not saying outright they'll refuse. I'm saying that I think they will. You just don't know until the day hence the need for a back up location.

You may have already said but what's the upstairs front room. If it's a bedroom could it go there, then run an external ethernet cable round the back of the house and back in under the stairs.

Brian

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@andyt1970 

You've already highlighted my suggested back up entry point (big red arrow). If you're lucky the engineer will have one of these in his van.

The grey box acts as a CSP so nothing required outside. I've heard of a couple of these being installed recently, especially where it's upstairs. The grey box covers the incoming cable which is then joined to the "fish tail" for plugging into the ONT. I don't know how much is spare, but I'm sure the fish tail has a longer reach than shown. It might just allow the ONT to go on the internal wall closer to the power socket.

The engineer might also be willing to do this

This is my incoming cable which goes round the skirting board to the back wall of the front room where my ONT is.

As regards to how long a drill bit is - this depends on the job to be done. The bit must be long enough to go through the plaster and insulation and then all the way through the external wall.

Brian