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XP SP3
21-10-2008 9:38 AM
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But I was ready for it, and shut down the PC without installing the update.
Can anyone tell me what SP3 will give me in terms of improvements, and if there are any pitfalls I should look out for. Since the release was some while ago, does this mean that any known bugs have been corrected?
I wasn't prompted to install this morning, can I do this manually?
Re: XP SP3
21-10-2008 10:12 AM
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Re: XP SP3
21-10-2008 10:14 AM
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Re: XP SP3
21-10-2008 11:01 AM
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Re: XP SP3
21-10-2008 11:54 AM
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A fairly good guide is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP#Service_Pack_3
I not had problems installing it - but not noticed much difference to be honest.
Re: XP SP3
21-10-2008 12:14 PM
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Just for comparison: I've done around 60 machines now, a mix of Desktops / Laptops and Intel / AMD. Now have I just broken the Karma by mentioning it
Maurice
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Re: XP SP3
21-10-2008 1:24 PM
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Re: XP SP3
22-10-2008 11:16 AM
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Re: XP SP3
22-10-2008 12:41 PM
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Quote from: MuppetGrinder You use Automatic Updates
Well yes! WSUS is a management system that allows a single server to download all microsoft (well a user defined subset) patches to a database in one pass. An administrator then authorises those patches which are considered safe according to which Management defined Group the PC is in. E.g. in my case, most patches are authorised for onward deployment to a group called 'Client' but 'tricky' patches like SP3 are only initially deployed to a group called 'Test' . The individual PC's are set up to download patches from the local server and not the Internet. More control, less Internet access?
Most bigger networks will use something like WSUS to get this level of control?
M
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Re: XP SP3
22-10-2008 12:57 PM
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As Maurice says though, its not the same as Automatic Updates, as the WSUS Administrator chooses which patches to install, and on which machines.
Re: XP SP3
22-10-2008 1:06 PM
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I get that it's convenient for a lot of you trusting types out there, but I'm a natural born cynic and I had too many problems with auto update buggering up systems (not mine cause I don't use it, i'm talking innocent civilans here). In fact I think auto update may well have caused me my second highest level of residential call outs (the highest, by an unsupringly large margin, is muppets running file share programs with no av software at all) regarding XP hangs and boot failures.
And Yeah, WSUS is ideal if you have a pre-catch setup where you can trial "tricky" updates, but some of us support companies that don't have that kind of setup and security in place.
So ok, I get that i'm in the minority here, but I won't change from thinking that anything that puts software on a computer without the user telling it to is not a good thing
Re: XP SP3
22-10-2008 1:18 PM
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Its free to install, and it sits chugging away downloading all the updates that fit the criteria you select (MS Office, XP, Vista etc, Software, Hardware Drivers etc.)
You then push the updates to your client computers as you feel the need (and after testing them).
No use for the home user, unless they feel like setting up an AD Domain, but for anybody with AD, its an absolute must. (Also remember to modify the relevant GP to disallow access to Windows Updates via the web - set the options to point to your WSUS box instead for updates)
Re: XP SP3
22-10-2008 2:32 PM
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Re: XP SP3
22-10-2008 2:41 PM
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If not, and you currently share files from Desktop OSs, the purchase of CALs will be small compared with the cost of an MS Server OS.
SBS 2003 comes with a bunch of CALs and adding more won't cost the earth - you can't need so many? If you do need more the reduced admin overhead of moving to a domain will pay for the outlay in a very short space of time.
Re: XP SP3
22-10-2008 4:55 PM
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so we have 5 users on the domain, using exchange, everyone else gets stuffed on the workgroup, which meens half my day is spen unlocking files on the server cause it keeps getting confused with too many guest access calls. Then there is the complete moron that was contracted before they employed me who thought that he would get a Server 2003 box - then put it on the damn workgroup too
As for Admin overheads, that would be me, I'm all the IT support there is for head office here and all our 58 remote sites
They are seriously cheep about their IT in this place, believe me, I don't even get the going wage for a helpdesk operator never mind an IT and network support tech
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