XP Pro SP3 and Win 7 display of PN Front page
I had my wrist slapped (quite rightly) in Feedback for my posts on this which got off topic; so here goes to see what seems to be impossible:-
Prior to the PN new web page, my two machines behaved similarly on reacting to the usual "www.plus.net" on Firefox. There were very small differences in the appearance of the FF tool bar, ie the "Home on Win 7 still looked like a little house on XP. FF was version 17 on both machines (now on 18). When I saw the new page when it came on-line, I noted its improved appearance and remarked on it in Feedback. Later I wound up my old XP and was astonished to see the old layout with the cheerful chappie offering all sorts of goodies of Broadband etc., much as it was before. Needless to say I did check that the PN address was exactly the same on both machines. In all other respects the XP machine works perfectly well in using all the facilities of the website. I can live with this but cannot see how the same address can produce a different display!
Could this be a by-product of 32 vs 64 bits which are the only basic differences between the machines (apart from the great difference in speed of operation)?
PS The failure to get to my router stats page on 192.168.2.1 (mentioned in Feedback) was finger trouble, XP stuffed www in front of it, now set up properly.
Prior to the PN new web page, my two machines behaved similarly on reacting to the usual "www.plus.net" on Firefox. There were very small differences in the appearance of the FF tool bar, ie the "Home on Win 7 still looked like a little house on XP. FF was version 17 on both machines (now on 18). When I saw the new page when it came on-line, I noted its improved appearance and remarked on it in Feedback. Later I wound up my old XP and was astonished to see the old layout with the cheerful chappie offering all sorts of goodies of Broadband etc., much as it was before. Needless to say I did check that the PN address was exactly the same on both machines. In all other respects the XP machine works perfectly well in using all the facilities of the website. I can live with this but cannot see how the same address can produce a different display!
Could this be a by-product of 32 vs 64 bits which are the only basic differences between the machines (apart from the great difference in speed of operation)?
PS The failure to get to my router stats page on 192.168.2.1 (mentioned in Feedback) was finger trouble, XP stuffed www in front of it, now set up properly.
Hi kmilburn,
Bull's eye!! Shift refresh did the trick. I did not think hard enough to realise what the problem might be. Another success story in the forum.
PS Can someone add SOLVED to the label or tell me how to do it please?
Bull's eye!! Shift refresh did the trick. I did not think hard enough to realise what the problem might be. Another success story in the forum.
PS Can someone add SOLVED to the label or tell me how to do it please?
Thanks Mushy, It all looks proper now. Why did I not think of that? VOAP probably the cause!!
My euphoria was misplaced and I have amended the heading as you will see.
The clearing of caches is effective some times. I have discovered that the Win7 always goes direct to "plus.net" in the address bar, but looking at XP it has that address in the bar but looking at the activity at the bottom left of the screen, it appears that a whole raft of addresses are investigated, much too quickly to note down, but I noticed "google-analytics" was one. It would seem that all or some of these are old ones which download the old display instead of the current one. I looked at Connection settings and found that "proxy" was in fact selected. HaHa! I said that is what is doing it! Reselected "no proxy" but to no avail, the raft still persists (checked "no proxy" still in place!). Win 7 uses "no proxy" as well. So the plot thickens. Any words of more wisdom?
The clearing of caches is effective some times. I have discovered that the Win7 always goes direct to "plus.net" in the address bar, but looking at XP it has that address in the bar but looking at the activity at the bottom left of the screen, it appears that a whole raft of addresses are investigated, much too quickly to note down, but I noticed "google-analytics" was one. It would seem that all or some of these are old ones which download the old display instead of the current one. I looked at Connection settings and found that "proxy" was in fact selected. HaHa! I said that is what is doing it! Reselected "no proxy" but to no avail, the raft still persists (checked "no proxy" still in place!). Win 7 uses "no proxy" as well. So the plot thickens. Any words of more wisdom?
Got a few moments (snow affects normal programme!). Looked at Firebug and have not found any mention of Network Traffic analyser so far. Is this a separate extension or what?
The anomalous workings on XP are all too regular although occasionally the right version can turn up. Both seem to work in use.
As a side issue, on XP I have the Firefox toolbars displayed in the old style with arrows for back & forward and little house as Home. This has been present over the time of several updates (recently 17 to 18 on both machines) which surprises me and which was not detected until the current Win7 showed the changes. I believe that the latter is 64 bit which might explain this.
Any views out there?
The anomalous workings on XP are all too regular although occasionally the right version can turn up. Both seem to work in use.
As a side issue, on XP I have the Firefox toolbars displayed in the old style with arrows for back & forward and little house as Home. This has been present over the time of several updates (recently 17 to 18 on both machines) which surprises me and which was not detected until the current Win7 showed the changes. I believe that the latter is 64 bit which might explain this.
Any views out there?
I have installed Firebug in laptop and find that the listing looks very much like yours as far as it goes. I first thought that the XP one was different and not showing the "GET www.plus.net"; line but closer examination shows that it just the same for yours in this respect. This is with the old style page configuration in view. By scrolling down the XP list a great way, I do find the lines containing the pictures of the old style page ie. joe-flag2 band.png, joe-flag, doreen paint, etc., which explains why the display is there. I assume that these are not around when the new style is displayed. I will have to do a line-by-line check on both listings to see where they differ, which is no small task. Is there any way I can print a full listing? Or perhaps someone with an intimate knowledge of the process can guide me?
The Firefox profile change looks a bit daunting. Is it possible to view the profile just to make a comparison between the two?
The Firefox profile change looks a bit daunting. Is it possible to view the profile just to make a comparison between the two?
Further to reply #12...I have had time to experiment a bit more and found that the W7 Snipping Tool served a reasonable way to print the list in two bits. XP had to resort to Printscreen, Cut/Paste into Word for printing, again in two bits. Putting the results together it is clear that Win7 list is very much shorter than that of XP, which explains the the shorter access time to plus,net. something like 31 as opposed to 57 (approx)! Much of the extra is where the old images are asked for. Win7 stops short of all the requests containing the unwanted images. I could attach the listings with some difficulty because I would have to do it from both machines in two posts.
All this indicates that the software for XP is still unmodified even though both systems have been updated at least from 17 to 18 and perhaps from earlier. This is evident when you look at the standard set-up of Firefox itself mentioned much earlier. I suspect that the Profile might not get changed following updates for some reason. Can these be examined in a similar way to what I have done so far? It would be nice to get the displays to agree in all aspects.
All this indicates that the software for XP is still unmodified even though both systems have been updated at least from 17 to 18 and perhaps from earlier. This is evident when you look at the standard set-up of Firefox itself mentioned much earlier. I suspect that the Profile might not get changed following updates for some reason. Can these be examined in a similar way to what I have done so far? It would be nice to get the displays to agree in all aspects.