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Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 3:14 PM
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I need to check the amount of RAM that is allocated for video and also instal a new driver to get over my display problems, all of which are in the Windows Software Forum. This did not seem to be quite suitable for my query here.
Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 3:18 PM
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Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 3:24 PM
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I resisted putting this topic within Windows software because the problem is before Windows gets going. All the year's of use have not had any problem of this type until now. The initial Dell logo has always been there whatever the updates have thrown at the system until now. All I get now is a blank black screen when I would expect the pre-Windows bits.
Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 3:37 PM
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Check the shutdown options when you shutdown.
Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 3:39 PM
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http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/p/19463699/20171631.aspx
To which my initial thought is - Oh heck

Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 5:39 PM
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Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 5:40 PM
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Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 5:47 PM
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You may need to open the case to reset the BIOS to correct this. Google "reset bios" followed by the model number!
York.
Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 6:32 PM
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Some Dell BIOS don't give sufficient time for the keyboard to be detected when using a hub. The OS is unaffected, but key presses during POST will be effectively ignored.
Another thing - you may have differing success trying the F2 after a restart vs a shutdown (and also a full power off at the socket shutdown).

Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
15-08-2013 7:24 PM
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Therefore if it was mine, I would -
Switch everything off, pull out the mains lead, and press the power button for four seconds.
Open the PC case.
Replace the lithium battery (whether it appears to needs replacing or not), as typical CR2032 batteries are only about £0.20.
I would disconnect the hard drive data and power cables.
Power up the PC and see what happens.
Most likely it will complain that the BIOS has been lost and tell you to press a 'Fn' key to enter BIOS.
If that doesn't happen then it might run all the BIOS checks then complain that there is no bootable drive (because you disconnected it !)
Either way, you should now be able to get into the BIOS.
Find the page that allows you to reset the BIOS configuration,
personally I would choose the option "Load performance settings", but failing that there should be "Load defaults"
Now go through all the settings, ensuring that they are either sensible defaults or are set as you wish.
Check the boot options are as expected, and say "Display press F2 to enter BIOS" - or whatever the equivalent is !
I would then "Save Config and reboot".
It should run up without error until It can't find the bootable drive.
If it still isn't displaying the wanted BIOS boot screens, now is the time to go back in and get it how you want it.
Switch everything off, pull out the mains lead, and press the power button for four seconds.
Now reconnect your hard drive.
Reconnect the mains power.
Power on, and let it boot.
It will probably boot all the way to Windows with no further problems.
If the BIOS complains that the configuration has changed, then go into the BIOS and accept the change, reboot and try again.
Put the PC case back together.

Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
16-08-2013 8:18 AM
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- Windows computers get updates at least once a month.
- Bad things happen to computers all the time.
- Therefore some of those bad things happen after a Windows Update.
Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
16-08-2013 10:20 AM
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Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
16-08-2013 11:09 AM
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Yes, Keyboard is directly plugged in at back and always has been, it did not like to run via a hub. Several years of use has never shown any reluctance to find keyboard at start-up, the Dell logo and invitation to enter BIOS set-up were always present. I agree that not a lot of time is available to see them.
@ HB #3
The machine is always fully run down and mains removed every day. Windows declares that it is shutting down, sleep or hibernate not used.
@R.R. #10
I understand those sentiments. I am only blaming a Win update because all this occurred when I was surprised to to see a complete change of the Windows opening displays and different colours in many of the usual Windows displays together with the total absence of the normal Dell logo etc., at start-up. It seems that my quest to see a full display at a reasonable X Y Pixels is not easy!!
Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
16-08-2013 1:45 PM
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Quote from: colintivy Now on power-up, the first display is a new Windows log-in and "Windows starting" display.
I don't think we established what version of Windows you are using but what exactly do you see and what is new about it? Windows 8 plays around with the login screens; you have not been experimenting with that , have you? Did the recent updates include one for your graphics card/adaptor?
The normal (pre-8) sequence of events is:
BIOS splash screen (optional)
BIOS text messages (sometimes optional, often not present on newer machines)
'Windows is starting up' or similar
Screen goes completely blank as higher level functions of graphics invoked.
Bit more start up
Login screen if appropriate
Welcome message
Desktop loads
Re: Windows XP Prof. update removes option for access to BIOS.
16-08-2013 1:48 PM
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