Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
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Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
30-10-2010 8:33 PM
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When i upgraded to Win7 the windows guide recommended a 32 bit install however when i run Belarc it says:
2.93 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
256 kilobyte primary memory cache
1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (2 total)
Its the 64-bit ready bit that puzzles me does that mean i can run in 64 bit or does it mean i need some add on hardware to make it run in 64 bit
I know this will a simple question to most of you but not to me so please bear with me
Many Thanks
Mike
Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
30-10-2010 8:51 PM
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The decision on whether to go 64 bit largely depends on the installed memory (including that on the graphics card) as it gets round the 4GB limit on Windows - if you have a 1GB graphics card that knocks a big hole in it
For a more detailed explanation
Quote The consumption of memory addresses below 4GB can be drastic on high-end gaming systems with large video cards. For example, I purchased one from a boutique gaming rig company that came with 4GB of RAM and two 1GB video cards. I hadn’t specified the OS version and assumed that they’d put 64-bit Vista on it, but it came with the 32-bit version and as a result only 2.2GB of the memory was accessible by Windows. You can see a giant memory hole from 8FEF0000 to FFFFFFFF in this Meminfo output from the system after I installed 64-bit Windows.
Note: Wondering how we arrive at that 4GB limit? Here’s the math for 32-bit systems:
232 = 4,294,967,296 bytes
4,294,967,296 / (1,024 x 1,024) = 4,096 MB = 4GB
It’s different for 64-bit:
264 = 18,446,744,073,709,551,616
18,446,744,073,709,551,616 / (1,024 x 1,024) = 16EB (exabytes)
Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
30-10-2010 8:54 PM
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Choosing 64 bit allows you to use more memory but if you have some older peripheral hardware you might have trouble finding 64-bit drivers for it. If you ran the upgrade over the top of an existing copy of Windows Vista in order to keep your existing programs then it would have to be the 32-bit version (assuming your Vista was 32-bit which I'm sure it was). If you upgrade as a clean install then you can use either 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 7.
Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
30-10-2010 9:36 PM
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Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
27-11-2010 11:00 AM
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Quote from: ReedRichards The fact that it is an "AMD Athlon 64.." means you have a 64 bit processor and can run the 64 bit version of Windows. I imagine by the time we get to Windows 8 it will be 64 bit or nothing.
Choosing 64 bit allows you to use more memory but if you have some older peripheral hardware you might have trouble finding 64-bit drivers for it. If you ran the upgrade over the top of an existing copy of Windows Vista in order to keep your existing programs then it would have to be the 32-bit version (assuming your Vista was 32-bit which I'm sure it was). If you upgrade as a clean install then you can use either 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 7.
I have just installed 64 bit Windows 7 and now find that most of my software, including sound card,webcam and others are not compatible because they are 32bit and vintage.
Is there a special forum running on the forum (before I take up space here)
cheers
Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
28-11-2010 8:01 AM
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Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
28-11-2010 4:33 PM
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It's just one of the methods MS and others use to force people to upgrade their programs/hardware whatever to the latest version.
In effect they are not supporting what in other industries are called legacy issues.
For comparison at the other extreme one could look at the aviation industry where manufacturers are required by the regulators to support their designs from many decades ago if they are still flying.
So one the one hand we have constant innovation with old products junked as soon as they become outdated compared to the other where innovation takes decades to bring to the market.
Personally I find both extremes rather trying. Which is why I'll be sticking to 32bit for the forseeable future because of legacy issues with specialist programs written for 32 bit with no possibility of any 64 drivers or re-write likely or even possible.
Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
28-11-2010 5:27 PM
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Quote from: x47c It's just one of the methods MS and others use
In this case it's the "others" not M$.
64-bit has been inevitable for a long time; it's hardware manufacturers deciding it's not worth producing updated 64-bit drivers for products they no longer sell.
Some are quite good about it, others much less so.
I've gone 64-bit and actually been surprised how little fails to work. Even my ancient laser printers seem fine!
Some SCSI stuff (all really old) is a write-off sadly.
Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
28-11-2010 7:47 PM
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28-11-2010 8:13 PM
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It looks as if I will have to consider re-installing W7 on 32 bit (if that is possible), although I have already ordered on ebay a compatible sound card.
My Dragon cost best part of £100 and it will crease me to have to replace it.
Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
28-11-2010 8:15 PM
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28-11-2010 8:27 PM
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Quote from: community My Creative sound Card, my Dragon naturally Speaking 9.0 and my Pinnacle TV tuner will not work and cannot be updated.
Sound cards are "cheap as chips" and frequently onboard on the motherboard.
TV - analogue or digital? Remember Analogue is dying soon anyway.
Dragon - talk to them about trade-in?
Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
28-11-2010 11:10 PM
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Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
29-11-2010 9:09 AM
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The odd thing is that Dragon naturally Speaking 9.0 is shown as compatible http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/windows-7/en-us/Details.aspx?type=Software&p=Dragon%2... so perhaps it is a sound card problem only
Re: Windows 7 32 or 64 bit that is the question
29-11-2010 9:11 AM
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