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Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
14-10-2012 5:40 PM
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Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
14-10-2012 5:51 PM
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Either get this microsoft package installed properly on XP: http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=17073
Or find a Vista / Win7 machine to create (and burn) the iso.
Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
14-10-2012 7:00 PM
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Quote from: penneck His laptop is a Sony Vaio VGN-NR38E
Try F10 as the computer is booting. Note that if this works, all user data will be lost in the recovery process.
Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
14-10-2012 7:03 PM
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Quote from: penneck ... I have just tried what you suggest, but my pc which uses XP says I need to install Imapi 2....
Borrow your wife's computer?
Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
14-10-2012 9:16 PM
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I dont know what I did wrong, but trying again got the Imapi v2 installed, and I was able then to create a bootable CD with a Windows Defender Offline Iso image on it. I also created a USB memory stick version as well, just in case. My son's laptop wont boot from the CD. It ignores it and boots up in the normal way, so I went into Computer (the equivalent of XPs My Computer) but it didn't list the CD Drive. It did list E:\USB Memory. I tried booting with the USB memory stick, but it ignored that too.
I went into the BIOS and had a look at the Boot Order. Inthe Boot Order list, anything to do with USB (plus the Floppy Drive) has an "*" with the message "This drive is available when External Drive Boot is Enable." - not my typing - it says Enable not Enabled. I haven't found how you control External Drive Boot is Enable. I did try moving USB Flash in the Boot Order. It would only go down, not up.
Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
14-10-2012 10:48 PM
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Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
14-10-2012 11:13 PM
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It created a CD without any further action on my part other than putting a blank CD in the drive and it is bootable judging by the file list which includes bootmgr
Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
14-10-2012 11:31 PM
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Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
14-10-2012 11:36 PM
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Quote Turn on or restart the computer and prepare to tap the "F2" key to enter the BIOS screen.
When the VAIO logo appears, tap the "F2" key to enter the BIOS screen.
Use the arrow keys to navigate to the "BOOT" section of the BIOS screen.
Ensure the "External Device Boot" is set to "Enabled".
Press the "F10" key to save changes and exit.
From http://superuser.com/questions/258739/sony-vgn-nr260e-external-device-boot
Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
15-10-2012 5:38 PM
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As it turns out, I had burned the Windows Defender Off line image file to the CD just by treating the image file like an ordinary file. I have now found how Nero 7 copies the image file as an image. I tested the new CD in my good pc, and it booted, but after spending a while loading files, the screen just went blank (black blank, not blue blank) and I waited for something to happen. Nothing. I tried CTRL+ALT+DEL but no reaction, so I removed the CD, and powered down. When I rebboted, it came up as per normal, so god knows what I have done wrong now
Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
15-10-2012 6:51 PM
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Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
15-10-2012 8:22 PM
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Quote from: ReedRichards Although I was able to remove the virus so superficially Windows appeared back to normal; the virus had removed the entry points for the software required for Windows Update and Security Center so neither would run.
Reading the symptoms of Sirefef here http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?Name=Win32%2FSirefef ; , the missing services sound suspiciously similar to those missing from the computer I was working on over the weekend. I managed to restore about half of these to working but it was taking so long that I gave up and used a System Restore instead. In your case, Penneck, I think you should investigate the F10 option to see if it does get you into the recovery menu.
Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
15-10-2012 11:02 PM
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Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
17-10-2012 5:27 PM
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I removed the memory stick and rebooted, and it brought up a list like you get when you use F8. The list recommended a repair (I've never seen this line before, nor could I get it later when I tried a safe boot), so I selected it. The next time I booted the pc, the reboot problem had gone. Microsoft Security Essential (full scan) cannot find anything of Sirefef, so I tried the memory stick again. That ran a full scan and didn't find anything either.
I do have one concern (apart from "is Sirefef hiding for a while?") and that is Windows Defender on the laptop (not the bootable one in the memory stick) is stopped. It says so when I try to use it. How do you start it?
Well, my thanks to all who made suggestions, particularly RR
Re: Win Vista keeps rebooting
17-10-2012 6:16 PM
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I attempted remotely via LogMeIn and she has Symantec and some other virus scanner with the word power in, I think. Eventually got frequent messages that trojan.zeroaccess and trojan.gen2 were found but nothing would remove them.
I went round yesterday and uninstalled all current virus protection and installed MSE and reinstalled MalwareBytes which kept crashing. The above trojans were removed but also MSE found Sirefef and removed that, too.
Re-ran all scans again along with Spybot and all seems stable.
I really need to start charging for the time taken to sort all this - all afternoon
Edit: I reiterated to them both about the vigilance needed to keep the PC free from infections including frequent updates and scans. I reminded them that having used computers at home for almost 30 years "let me count how many trojans/virii I've had... erm, that would be zero!"
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