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Superuser
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VM's

Hi
I'm after some advice before I jump in to it.  I'm thinking of setting up a virtual environment to play with a few bits and after some advice on both the software and hardware.  I'm currently looking at keeping the costs as low as possible.  I want to run a linux distro (suggestions welcome on this as well!), a Windows 2003 server and a Windows 2008 server, though I may want multiple of all of them at some point.
So anyone got any recomendations on VM software and minimum hardware requirements you'd go for with them?
Many thanks
Phil
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VileReynard
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Re: VM's

Why run Windows as a server?
I could see you might consider Windows as a client.

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Re: VM's

Because that's what he wants to do?

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Superuser
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Re: VM's

It'll all be for ASP.NET websites, Exchange and PowerShell developments, so Windows is pretty vital.
Phil
matt_2k34
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Re: VM's

I was playing with ESXi - which is veryyy nice, and pretty slick. When running multiple VMs more RAM = better, obviously.
The requirements for ESXi are quite high, was running it on a Q6600, with 6GB ram (8+ would of been better) with 3 VMs, Server 2k3, 2k8 and a linux distro.
Unfortunately had hardware fail before i could properly get into it. (was having a few issues with performance, when trying to fix this, the I/O controller died so ended up bodging and going back to single OS) Sad
ESXi is free too, ESXi 4 is 64bit only however. Well worth the download imho, even if its just to play with it.
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Waldo
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Re: VM's

The free Citrix XenServer might be worth a look; I think that's what Sean Branagh is using (hopefully he'll read this and add his tuppence worth).
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Re: VM's

If you are looking at VMWare, I would recommend running it on CentOS not Ubuntu. And with any VM system memory and lots of it is key. Don't let the system cache to disk and that really hits performance.
Otherwise have fun.
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Re: VM's

Thanks a lot guys, I'll take a look at them.  One more question, anyone know about running MacOS on any of these?  I've seen a bit saying it possible with some hacks on some VMs, and in other places it talks about it being only possible with Mac hardware.  I was just thinking it might be worth while (if it's possible) so I could have a play about with iPhone apps.
Thanks
Phil
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Regarding the iPhone apps, I found this iPhone open toolchain on Ubuntu VM, and there are several other similar 'how-to' develop iPhone apps on Linux results on Google.
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Thanks purleigh, that's worth thinking about.
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Quote from: pjmarsh
One more question, anyone know about running MacOS on any of these?  I've seen a bit saying it possible with some hacks on some VMs, and in other places it talks about it being only possible with Mac hardware.

IIRC the Apple EULA prohibits installation on non-Mac branded hardware. Steve Jobs will have you on the naughty step if you choose to disregard it  Smiley

matt_2k34
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However there are various torrent websites which have Apple VMs premade to XYZ specs, all you need to do is match the hardware to the specs and load the given vmdk.
sometimes works, often doesnt.
i'd recommend one of the other tools though for iphone app building. X-code is horrible as is, i wouldnt wanna use it in a laggier VM.
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Thanks Matt
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IIRC the Apple EULA prohibits installation on non-Mac branded hardware. Steve Jobs will have you on the naughty step if you choose to disregard it  Smiley

If you bought your OSX you'll get 2 Apple stickers, if you put these on your computer does that make it Apple branded?  Roll eyes Grin
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it used to... not anymore though Wink

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