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05-12-2011 7:59 PM
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There are considerable doubts about M/S's intention with Windows 8 to install a "secure boot"::
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement
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05-12-2011 10:05 PM
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06-12-2011 6:48 AM
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In reality, I think any OEM which ships its product(s) with an installed OS and firmware / hardware which prevents installation of any other OS is leaving itself open to legal action on anti-competition grounds.
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06-12-2011 8:14 AM
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Quote from: Waldo I think any OEM which ships its product(s) with an installed OS and firmware / hardware which prevents installation of any other OS is leaving itself open to legal action on anti-competition grounds.
Apple?
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06-12-2011 2:52 PM
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06-12-2011 8:20 PM
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Quote from: Waldo In reality, I think any OEM which ships its product(s) with an installed OS and firmware / hardware which prevents installation of any other OS is leaving itself open to legal action on anti-competition grounds.
When I first bought a Windows OEM box it used just two of the four primary partitions on the HDD.
Recently almost (if not) all OEM's unnecessarily use all four partitions for the Windows installation!
OK, this is not insurmountable but it sure makes it more difficult for the average user thinking about trying a different OS.
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07-12-2011 3:22 PM
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Also the EU would likely take a rather dim view of this.
With my pedantic hat on, BG doesn't run Microsoft anymore, it's Steve Ballmer these days.
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07-12-2011 6:51 PM
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We could end up having to buy servers with graphics cards to avoid this "feature".
"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
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08-12-2011 11:57 AM
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I really think people are getting a bit too hyped up about this; we don't even know how it will be implemented yet.
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08-12-2011 6:09 PM
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Quote from: Ben All the servers we buy these days have graphics capabilities.
Like the ironically named ASpeed range of chips? Even ATI's late 90s Rage II family perform better than those things, as well as NX and RDP.
Quote from: Ben we don't even know how it will be implemented yet.
It strikes me as being yet another pointless FSF FUD campaign, to go along with their anti-DRM nonsense - personally I would rather have hardware and software which is capable of handling DRM if needed than some hobbled Ogg-supporting piece of low-end junk. The way the FSF pushed that made less technical people think that the evil Windows Vista and Windows 7 inject DRM into your free media. I don't see this campaign as being any different - in their opinion Microsoft might be pushing un-named OEMs to implement something in a way that they think it may be. Seriously?!? They give Linux the reputation of freetardism and possibly are themselves as much to blame for single digit market share as any UEFI changes will ever be (if their conjecture turns out to be true). Linux is great, FOSS is great, but freetardism is not and puts people off.
But hey, I guess they have to spend their donations somehow.
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08-12-2011 6:27 PM
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Quote from: CX23882 It strikes me as being yet another pointless FSF FUD campaign, to go along with their anti-DRM nonsense - personally I would rather have hardware and software which is capable of handling DRM if needed than some hobbled Ogg-supporting piece of low-end junk. The way the FSF pushed that made less technical people think that the evil Windows Vista and Windows 7 inject DRM into your free media. I don't see this campaign as being any different - in their opinion Microsoft might be pushing un-named OEMs to implement something in a way that they think it may be. Seriously?!? They give Linux the reputation of freetardism and possibly are themselves as much to blame for single digit market share as any UEFI changes will ever be (if their conjecture turns out to be true). Linux is great, FOSS is great, but freetardism is not and puts people off.
Could you write that in English, please?
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08-12-2011 6:41 PM
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The FSF use half-truths to slander Microsoft and Apple.
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08-12-2011 7:42 PM
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I wonder which half of the allegations against Microsoft is the true half though?
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08-12-2011 8:12 PM
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Quote from: Ben I really think people are getting a bit too hyped up about this; we don't even know how it will be implemented yet.
Disagree. I don't think we are getting too hyped up.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/26/uefi_linux_lock_out_row_latest/
"Garrett said that Windows 8 certification requires that hardware ship with UEFI secure boot enabled. A feature allowing secure boot to be disabled – necessary to run Linux and FreeBSD on certified systems – is not required for certification. "We've already been informed by hardware vendors that some hardware will not have this option," Garrett writes in a flow-up blog post to his original critique of the technology."
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08-12-2011 8:31 PM
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Quote from: CX23882 personally I would rather have hardware and software which is capable of handling DRM
If everyone thought that way, that would be all you could get and DRM would become compulsory by the back door. cf the egregious TPM.
Quote from: CX23882 Ogg-supporting piece of low-end junk
Being supported by low end hardware is actually a good thing for a standard.
Quote from: CX23882 Microsoft might be pushing un-named OEMs to implement something in a way that they think it may be. Seriously?!?
And Microsoft have never used OEM agreements to force OEMs to do what they want. Windows Tax anyone?
Quote from: CX23882 Linux is great, FOSS is great, but freetardism is not and puts people off.
What's this got to do with freetards? This is about freedom to install the OS of your choice. No-one's getting anything for nothing.
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