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Luzern
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Scanner and printer advice

Smiley Been thinking whether I should update some of my bits 'n pieces. Presently I use a HP Deskjet 5150 for any printing (text and photo) and a Canon Canoscan N670U. Amongst other things the physical set up and ambience is a tad clunky, so I am thinking of going multifunction. At moment I am on XP Home and am not immediately going Vista, but some future proofing might be advantageous. ( on that your opinions?)
Of what is on the market at the moment can I have friends views, please? My output is lower rather than higher, so I would like to keep the costs moderate.
BTW I also have from years back slides that I would like to digitise, but that is more a gleam than a pressing need until my ancient projector goes phut in some way. So advice on a good cheap way to achieve my aim would also be appreciated.
No one has to agree with my opinion, but in the time I have left a miracle would be nice.
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pierre_pierre
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Re: Scanner and printer advice

you can get reasonable standalone scanners quite cheap nowdays, also combined printer scanners which save space, the trouble with using a flatbed scanners to digitize slides is that they are not very good.
I got recently a Plustek slide/negative sacenner from Amazon fairly cheap  Plustek page, it comes with two cassettes  6x neative and 4x slide,  you can do a index type low res scan or a full high res scan, which I an using with my old negs,  Found a few that I had forgotten
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Just had a look at a mail order page, you dont alf ave to look at the postage for a cheep scanner
Luzern
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I need another visit to ....savers Crazy but I cannot find your £21.88 item, PP
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pierre_pierre
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Re: Scanner and printer advice

it was the mustek 1200  see this page  for comparisons
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Re: Scanner and printer advice

Just a suggestion about your slides Cheesy..... have you a local photographic club?  If so, you could contact the "big lens" there, and see if he can advise you about digitising your slides.... they may well have some special equipment at the club meetings which you could use.... (save yourself the cost)....  Roll eyes
Luzern
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@shutter there's a thought! Smiley
@PP thanks Smiley
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Here`s a link for the cheapest HP printer/scanner/ combo  works out at about £44 inc p&p & vat
https://secure.scan.co.uk/Shop/ViewCart.ASP?SessionCheck=669403671
However, if you are near (dare I say it....)  PC World  they probably have it at about £30
If the local Photo club can`t help, you could always go into your local photo shop, the one`s that sell real cameras and films as well as telescopes, binoculars, tripods, etc.....
could even see if there is a photographic forum on the net..... not sure about this one, but could be a good start.....  photonhead.com 
craig_p
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Hi
If you go for a very cheap all in one machine, just check out how much the ink replacements are.  They can be VERY expensive and VERY small.  I have just bought an HP L7680 all in one. It does all you could ever want and each ink comes separatly so you only replace the one that is empty.  It also has a fax built in. Its a bit pricey but a fab bit of kit.
Hope this helps
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A bit beyond my budget, but thanksSmiley
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Extremely good point that, particularly so with cheap printers, as the replacement OEM print cartridges can be just as much as the printer..... I have two printers, and a scanner  (all by HP) the 1st printer is a DJ 840 about 10 years old,  the hp cartridges are black £18 and colour £24-26..... ! ! I also have a DJ 5940  where the print cartridges are about the same, although half the size.... I get replacement ink cartridges from http://www.ink2u.co.uk 24 hour delivery  and excellent price and quality.... My scanner is "tucked away" cos it hardly ever gets used, only 3 times in last 2 years....
The original idea of getting the later DJ 5940 was because I wanted a "good" printer for my photographs.... Did a "same photo" print on both, and could hardly tell the difference, the DJ5940 was possibly a little bit sharper, but the colours were just as brilliant as the "old" DJ840...
The only other point I would like to point out is..... find out from the seller..... If the scanner breaks down, does that mean I lose the use of the printer too?  (obviously, if the printer packs in, then the scanner is pretty useless too, except to scan it to the computer, until the printer is repaired. ! ! !)
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I have experience of two HP multifunction printers - one bottom of the line, one nearer the top - and both of them were problematic; in fact, the expensive one had to go back to the shop after a week because it was being such a pain. (At one point, for example, it decided that the cartridges inside were completely empty, and there was no way I could get it to 'reset' its decision.) So I would steer clear of those - their standalone printers do seem to have quite a good reputation though (well, their pricier ones do anyway).
I also have experience of using an Epson RX425 (or maybe it was 420... same thing anyway, just for some reason it has two different model numbers). This was a cheap MFC and, well, it just about worked... sort of. It didn't do anything stupid like the HP I described above, but it seemed that nearly every time it was used the cartridges needed to be cleaned. This meant that, instead of just turning it on, sticking a sheet of paper in the scanner and copying it, you had to faff around doing a nozzle check then probably cleaning etc. to keep it working. Having said that, if you're a frequent user of the printer part that might not be a problem.
Going up the pricing ladder I have also used a much more expensive Epson photo-oriented multi-function printer. This was excellent: pretty reliable, and produced great quality photos and scans. (Well, 'great quality' relative to my photographic experience at the time - which is to say, great to the average person, although now I'm more experienced with photography I don't know what I'd think of it.)
Finally, my mother and I now use a Brother laser multifunction. In terms of reliability it's fantastic - it's never put a foot wrong. However, the drivers and supplied software are... appalling, although this is for Mac (the Windows software may well be better). This is quite a pain because it's a great bit of hardware, but it sometimes feels we can barely take advantage of it because of the poor software! One positive of a laser MFC worth considering is that taking a photocopy with one is a lot faster than with an inkjet - once it's warmed up it's ready to go, and it doesn't take a minute or two to print every page. I should also point out that, whilst we love our Brother laser MFC, I have heard that their inkjet MFCs (which are inherently cheaper) are also of somewhat poorer quality.
(Btw, in case you're wondering, not all of the printers mentioned have been mine! Some have been my mother's, but I've inadvertently had to help her use them.)
Now on to the subject of scanners. If you're willing to spend some money - maybe, say, £75-£100 - Epson do some very nice standalone flatbed scanners that can scan in negatives and slides. And the results are actually good: probably about three/four years ago I did an experiment where I scanned in a negative using my Epson scanner and printed it using my Epson photo printer, and the results were actually better than the print Boots had produced straight from the film.
So, that leads us to the quandary of what you should do. I'm afraid your request for a 'good cheap way to achieve [your] aim' is a paradox: it's not going to happen. You can either not spend very much money, and get something that's absolute rubbish, or you can spend more money than you're probably willing to to get something (or things) that work. I probably should point out though that I have no experience of Canon printers and so on. Canon are a photographically-oriented company so you may find they have a model suitable for you. Having said that, my experience with Canon cameras certainly doesn't make me enthusiastic about their reliability...
In sum, after an extremely lengthy post, there is no right answer: you're going to have to put up with some compromises. Indeed, after hearing my experiences you may decide to just keep the equipment you've got (maybe upgrading the scanner at a later date) - which wouldn't be all that bad an idea IMHO, if it all works to your satisfaction.