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Networking & sharing input devices
13-10-2013 10:14 AM
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I had thought about networking using firewire, only to find that apparently Microsoft, in their 'wisdom' removed firewire support after XP or Vista. I had thought about networking with USB 3.0, if it's possible, but that would require buying a USB 3.0 card for my current build and I'd rather not spend more money on my current build. My current computer has only one ethernet port, and so will my new one. So I can't network them via ethernet, unless I can use my router (TG582n ADSL2+ firmware) as an intermediary. Is that possible? If so, is there some guide (I can't seem to find any information on doing it), and how well does it function?
Another problem I have is threefold: I would like to use one keyboard, mouse and monitor (I think) for both computers. In searching about I find something called a KVM Switch. It seems an ideal solution on the face of it, but in reading reviews these things seem to be somewhat hit and miss in functioning, and I also rather worry that switching the monitor will cause a problem as my current build already doesn't work properly again if the HDMI cable is disconnected from my monitor and reconnected (I have to reboot to get full function back). Yes, my monitor does have four HDMI inputs, but only one is intended for PC input. Yes, it also has VGA input, but I rather don't want to be using VGA for one PC build when having gone to the expense of a GPU that has HDMI output (though ultimately I may have to).
Something else I came across is a software solution to a shared keyboard and mouse, there are several such programs, one of which is called Mouse Without Borders. Of course this does not deal with a shared monitor, unfortunately, so I may have to buy another TV for the other build. Of course this program and others require a system that is networked. Another reason why I'd need to network. I have some concerns with this type of program too, however. If they work by computers being networked, then I'm not so sure that I could boot a 'slave-PC' (inputting text during boot sequence, or even accessing the BIOS), when the 'networked-to-the-Master-PC' Slave-OS hasn't loaded (I think it wouldn't be able to accept the proxied keyboard/mouse input). Does anyone have any experience with such programs to tell me if they can be used this way? I can't seem to find any information regarding this.
I do have another keyboard and mouse (a wireless mouse which incidentally might interfere with my current build as it's the same brand as the currently used wireless mouse), but I'm trying to work this way to save space and money, otherwise I'm going to have to buy another TV and move my whole setup to another room to accommodate the two full setups which would result if I can't do what I'd like and I really don't want to do that. Any thoughts, anything I'm missing, not thinking about?
Why so difficult? Computers, who'd have them?
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13-10-2013 10:24 AM
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Is your XP Home or a higher version. If it is higher and you get them networked you could remote desktop in from the Win 7 machine.
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13-10-2013 10:32 AM
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Thanks for your reply.
I'm not putting them on different internet connections. I don't know why you got that impression. I intend connecting them both to my one router ("acting as the intermediary"). My XP system is Home, alas, and probably neutered where networking is concerned as a result (I wouldn't be surprised to be told ;D).
Re: Networking & sharing input devices
13-10-2013 10:51 AM
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Re: Networking & sharing input devices
13-10-2013 2:28 PM
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Instead of a KVM switch, you can use a number of programs for remote access. VNC, and variants, is available for MS Windows, MAC and Linux systems. XP Home has "Remote Access Auto Connection Manager", "Remote Access Connection Manager" and "Remote Desktop" services (though I haven't used them).
Using a TP-Link Archer VR600 modem-router.
Re: Networking & sharing input devices
13-10-2013 6:06 PM
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Quote from: jelv ... if they are connected to same router they are already networked
So that answers my question as to if I can use my router as the intermediary. Thanks. So it means I will be able to access files on either computer via either computer, right?
@PeeGee. Re: the hub, sounds much like what I fear would happen with a KVM switch.
Re: Networking & sharing input devices
13-10-2013 6:23 PM
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I got this one of ebay several years ago when my latest pc didn't have any ps2 sockets. (the round keyboard/mouse ones)
I certainly wouldn't go back from using a KVM now.
We used them all the time a work, when you have a rack of 20 servers and one screen you need to be able to switch easily.
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13-10-2013 6:55 PM
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Quote from: Razer So it means I will be able to access files on either computer via either computer, right?
Not all files/directories automatically - you have to share the directories first. You'll also be able to use the printer from the other PC if you share those as well.
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14-10-2013 9:31 AM
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@Jelv. I'll bear that in mind. Thanks.
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14-10-2013 10:04 AM
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14-10-2013 10:29 AM
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14-10-2013 2:29 PM
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Then setup the ip addresses mannually so that they're next to eachother and then setup windows sharing.
IF you want to see the other machines desktop then use something like TightVNC installed as a server on the old machine - you can then connect to it using the same mouse and keyboard and see the screen in a window. Job done.
No routers, switches, extra power supplies, extra cables etc needed. Just one network (Cross over) cable and thats it.
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14-10-2013 2:34 PM
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A network cable from each to the router then he can connect using vnc if needed.
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14-10-2013 2:39 PM
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Quote from: 7up Razer keep your costs down mate and save some money. No need for a KVM, just buy a crossover cable of suitable length and plug it into both computers network sockets.
Why would he need to do that when he's already said they will be plugged in to the same router?
Quote from: Razer I'm not putting them on different internet connections. I don't know why you got that impression. I intend connecting them both to my one router ("acting as the intermediary").
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14-10-2013 9:06 PM
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In that case even better - just download TightVNC and the old machine can be used headless.
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