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Moral dilemma !
29-03-2016 11:13 AM
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I replaced the laptop with a new HP machine. As some people on the forum may remember from previous postings of mine, my pension is paid by HP. I was in outsourcing services, not hardware, but nevertheless I feel duty bound to try to support my old employer, even if they have made a financial disaster of the hardware side of the business ! I was commercial not technical, and therefore not qualified to make judgments about computer performance or reliability.
I have boiled the choice down to two machines from PC World to suit my budget - one HP and one Asus. However, the Asus is substantially cheaper than the HP and has a better spec. Hence my moral dilemma. Do I allow price to outweigh loyalty ? Unless there are good technical reasons why I should not do so, I am seriously tempted to go for the Taiwanese Asus. After all, the HP is almost certainly still manufactured in China, and I could salve my conscience because I have an HP laptop and two HP printers !
I would therefore really value other people's experience and technical knowledge. My computing needs are very lightweight - the usual Office products, (all legacy), a bit of Photoshop (legacy again), surfing the web, reading online newspapers and buying from eBay ! I do not do social networking at all of any sort, nor do I play games, stream films, music or TV. As I have mentioned before, I decided that if the BBC can afford to pay £million fees to untalented celebrities, they are not in need of the income from my TV license, and so I threw the TV out many years ago and don't miss it.
For info. the spec of the two computers are :
HP Pavilion 550-110na
- AMD A10-7800 Processor
- Quad-core
- 3.5 GHz / 3.9 GHz with TurboBoost
- 4 MB cache
-8 GB DDR3
-1 TB HDD
ASUS K31BF
- AMD A8 7600 APU
- Quad-core
- 3.1 GHz / 3.8 GHz with Turbo Boost
- 4 MB cache
-8 GB
-3 TB HDD, 7200 rpm
I would be grateful for any thoughts. Thanks.

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29-03-2016 12:22 PM
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29-03-2016 1:14 PM
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On the spec you have listed... I would go for the Asus.... and, as it is cheaper, it will make your pension last a little bit longer ! ! ! .. ( or you could afford a couple more beers to celebrate the new machine ! )...
Warning... I do not understand specifications on computers,... just look at the numbers and see if one has better numbers than the other ! ! ! ... 3TB as opposed to 1TB ? you do the maths, as the saying goes ! ! ...

Re: Moral dilemma !
29-03-2016 1:21 PM
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http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/241/AMD_A10-Series_A10-7800_vs_AMD_A8-Series_A8-7600.html
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29-03-2016 5:45 PM
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But the ASUS has more disk.
The ASUS is £100 cheaper and check out the size of the PSU's - the HP is rubbish.
Don't buy Office - since LibreOffice is free.
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29-03-2016 5:53 PM
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29-03-2016 6:46 PM
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29-03-2016 7:07 PM
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30-03-2016 8:46 AM
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30-03-2016 9:10 AM
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30-03-2016 9:17 AM
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30-03-2016 1:49 PM
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Quote from: shermans Thanks for the comments so far. Some very helpful information there. For instance, I thought that the HP PSU at 180 watts meant it would use less electricity than the 350 watts of the ASUS. It did not occur to me that it would actually be underpowered. But I did read a comment on one of the reviews that the HP (I think it was) does not have a case fan which struck me as odd.
A 180W PSU means it can provide, at most, 180W.
So its going to be working much harder and will limit your options if you want to perform any upgrades.
A larger PSU would only use as much power as it needs.
Another point to check is the connection between the video output on the PC and the video input on the screen.
Look up VGA, DVI & HDMI on Wikipedia for pictures.
For an old screen you are probably limited to analogue VGA connections.
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30-03-2016 2:00 PM
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Another point to check is the connection between the video output on the PC and the video input on the screen.
Look up VGA, DVI & HDMI on Wikipedia for pictures.
For an old screen you are probably limited to analogue VGA connections.
Not a big problem, as there are many "converters" and "converter cable applications available on Ebay.... some less than a fiver !....
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01-04-2016 7:01 PM
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The last one did have a hard drive failure at 7mths [in warranty] which was disappointing but in fairness to them, it was picked by DHL at 6.00pm on Thursday repaired by 9.00pm Friday [in Poland] and back with me by 8.00am Tuesday, I could track it all the way, the local repair shop couldn't fit in in that time. It was that level of service made my mind up this time round.
I agree you don't owe HP anything buy what suits you best.
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01-04-2016 7:27 PM
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It's taken 5 emails and 3 months to get my £30 cashback.
Never again.
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