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Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
10-07-2020 11:54 PM
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Woops ! Thanks for that. I nearly got caught out and unless you had explained, I would not have understood.
So I think the only viable solution is probably a standard 2 TB hard disk.
Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 12:15 AM
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Following on from that, I have seen ths on Amazon which seems reasonable value fo a new one; I would not buy a used one for obvious reasns. Is it suitable ?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B009CPDI62/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
I hope you do not mind me asking but in view of my naivety over the SSD, I thought it best to ask firs !
Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 2:25 AM
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Is the Amazon drive for use as an internal drive, to replace your current one?
BTW There is nothing wrong with that hybrid SSD/HD disk - if you don't mind the price, the SSD cache should give a better performance for certain types of job mix. I'm not rich enough to have ever used one. 😀
I would say, that the SSD thing was not exactly highlighted - it was simply that there are no 2TB SSD disks for "only" £100!
The SSD won't help for large sequential writes, such as backups though.
You might find this interesting:-
https://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Toshiba-DT01ACA200-2TB/Rating/2736
Not sure what "Release date: Q1 2013." means.
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Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 8:13 AM
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@VileReynard wrote:
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Not sure what "Release date: Q1 2013." means.
It means that it was publicly released (aka available to buy) in the first three months of 2013
Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 10:19 AM
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@VileReynard as Mook said..... although generally it is a "business" term... Q1 = the first quarter of year XXXX, Q2 = second quarter of yearXXXX etc etc...especially used on forecasting profit/loss/ production figures ... etc...
Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 12:35 PM
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I know what Qx means - but were multi-TB consumer grade disks sold 7 years ago?
According to Wikipedia, "2012 – TDK demonstrates 2 TB on a single 3.5-inch platter"
So if this particular HDD was actually designed/built/sold in 2013, I wouldn't be inclined to buy it (at any price).
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Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 1:56 PM
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Yep @shutter
I used to hear that all the time when I worked for a financial company. Got the hang of it, not too hard:
Q1: January-March
Q2: April-June
Q3: July-September
Q4: October-December
Pretty sure that is right. I hope so 😊
Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 2:10 PM
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Unless you are counting financial quarters according to modern usage 🤣, which fall (approximately) from Wikipedia:-
The English quarter days (also observed in Wales and the Channel Islands) are
- Lady Day (25 March)
- Midsummer Day (24 June)
- Michaelmas (29 September)
- Christmas (25 December)
Lady Day was also the first day of the year in British dominions (excluding Scotland) until 1752 (when it was harmonised with the Scottish practice of 1 January being New Year's Day). The British fiscal year still starts on "Old" Lady Day (6 April under the Gregorian calendar corresponded to 25 March under the Julian calendar: the eleven days the new-style calendar advanced in 18th century plus one day due to the twelfth skipped Julian leap day in 1800; however, it was not changed to 7 April when a thirteenth Julian leap day was skipped in 1900). The dates of the quarter days observed in northern England until the 18th century were the same as those in Scotland.[2]
The cross-quarter days are four holidays falling in between the quarter days: Candlemas (2 February), May Day (1 May), Lammas (1 August), and All Hallows (1 November). The Scottish term days, which fulfil a similar role as days on which rents are paid, correspond more closely to the cross-quarter days than to the English quarter days.
However - this is off-topic - can anyone recommend a 2TB disk?
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Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 2:12 PM - edited 11-07-2020 2:21 PM
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@VileReynard wrote:
... but were multi-TB consumer grade disks sold 7 years ago?
According to Wikipedia, "2012 – TDK demonstrates 2 TB on a single 3.5-inch platter"
A quick check of my (incomplete) records shows the following purchase in November 2013 -
£129.99 to eBuyer for Seagate ST4000VN000 4TB HDD
and I remember having a 2TB Seagate Barracuda Green quite a while before then - still have it (not presently in use) although it has some bad sectors. Just checked and it was manufactured in May 2011.
(As an aside,I sold the 4TB disk just under 2 years ago as part of a NAS bundled with 4 identical disks, all of which had zero errors or re-allocated sectors at the time of sale).
Edit: added a missed word
Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 2:14 PM - edited 11-07-2020 2:18 PM
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@RobPN wrote:
A quick check of my (incomplete) records shows the following purchase in November 2013 -
£129.99 to eBuyer for Seagate ST4000VN000 4TB HDD
and I remember having a 2TB Seagate Barracuda Green quite a while before then - still have it (not presently in use) although it has some bad sectors. Just checked and it was manufactured in May 2011.
Consumer grade?
Weirdly, those disks still exist - but they are only 5900rpm - and expensive.
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Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 2:25 PM - edited 11-07-2020 2:28 PM
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@WinfredVaughan I've used CCL both through Amazon and direct (I usually go for what is the cheaper option). Very reliable when it comes to delivery. 2.5" 2TB - £66
Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 2:36 PM - edited 11-07-2020 2:37 PM
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The 'VN' in the model number of the 4TB version denoted its suitability for NAS usage, but there was a similar model for desktop usage (the letters may have been 'DM' but I can't remember), so why not consumer grade?
The 2TB one I mentioned above was 'green' so almost certainly CG!
One of the selling points for me at the time was the 5900rpm spin speed as that meant less 'whine' even though it still had fast seek times.
Last time I checked the newer versions of that HDD were slightly above £100, and a friend has actually purchased several of them for NAS usage over the past three years or so, although one had to be returned just inside the warranty period (3-years) for replacement due to having failing sectors.
Something which is probably relevant is that your link (I haven't followed it) mentioned "on a single platter", clearly that is a different achievement than just having multi-TB HDDs.
Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 2:46 PM
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The first disk I bought separately for an old PC was a 10,000rpm SCSI (couldn't afford the 15,000 rpm models); it wasn't noisy.
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Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 2:50 PM - edited 11-07-2020 2:51 PM
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As a recommendation for a 2TB disk here's one that's subject to pocket depth.
Edit: - Corrected stupid link opening default.
Re: Help with NTFS versus FAT32
11-07-2020 3:18 PM - edited 11-07-2020 3:21 PM
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AFAIK Only recent BIOS's will support M.2 SATA
So you might have to choose the "standard" SATA version?
Why does the M.2 need a battery?
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