Flash, Browsers and Linux. Whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
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Re: Java and Flash, whats going on with it these days?
03-07-2012 8:58 PM
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it will tell you what version of Flash you have:-
For me (Mint) Flash works fine & I get:-
"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
Re: Java and Flash, whats going on with it these days?
04-07-2012 9:39 AM
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Quote from: AverageWhiteBloke Excuse my ignorance, I have read so much on this issue lately I forget where I saw it and who pointed me there So any builds previous to 11.2.202.228 should be ok for people who's hardware doesn't support SSE2
From Adobe Vulnerability identifier: APSB12-14
Quote Users of Adobe Flash Player 11.2.202.235 and earlier versions for Linux should update to Adobe Flash Player 11.2.202.236.
If that's the version you have in Chrome 19, you're best sticking with it if it works for you.
Re: Java and Flash, whats going on with it these days?
04-07-2012 10:48 AM
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Quote Flash Player installed with Google Chrome will be updated automatically, so no user action is required. Google Chrome users can verify that they have updated to Google Chrome version 19.0.1084.56, which includes Adobe Flash Player 11.3.300.257.
Adobe must be a little behind I guess as Chrome 20 is the new stable and that's where the problem lies.
Quote Rival chip-maker AMD added support for SSE2 with the introduction of their Opteron and Athlon 64 ranges of AMD64 64-bit CPUs in 2003.
Seems like there will be millions of users out there affected by this, in general how many people install Linux because the have an old system? A lot I would have thought, in fact it's one of linux's main selling points the fact that it runs smoothly on a low end system. Beats me when flash is dying and Adobe just needs to make it secure until it fizzles out they decided it needed some SSE2 code in there It must have managed for many years without it and no problems so why change now. Fair enough don't develop it further, I'm down with that but don't add anything to an already stable release that will cause this much grief and vulnerability at the same time you declare your going to stop making it. Shocking, it's a bit like selling someone a car and then wrecking it before you drop it off. Campaign time I think hopefully some Linux boffs will be able to code something for us to use in the repos and adobe can take their version and stick it where the suns generally not shining.
From what I understand SSE2 isn't making much of a difference and could easily be removed so Adobe just want to get on with it tbh.
neil@XLDesktop:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 10
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1900+
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 1463.000
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up
bogomips : 2951.18
clflush size : 32
cache_alignment : 32
address sizes : 34 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management: ts
No SSE2 support on this machine, will check my home one when I get back but I'm guessing it's a done deal going by the age of my other machine. Both of which are a bit like triggers brush I think the mboard and cpu are probably the only original parts. No chance of upgrading either both have the max cpu they can take. It would appear that it's not the first time I've fell victim to SSE2, many moons ago I shelled out nearly 300 notes on a graphics card when I was into my pc gaming to find it wouldn't play GRAW. Turns out while browsing this was also a SSE2 issue. I game on PS3 now and know everything will play.
Would tag this solved if I knew how to
Re: Java and Flash, whats going on with it these days?
04-07-2012 3:29 PM
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Quote from: AverageWhiteBloke Would tag this solved if I knew how to
Well you could edit your first post and In the subject add (SOLVED). This Is what I used to do.
Re: Java and Flash, whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
04-07-2012 3:53 PM
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Edit* Also changed title to a one which may be better for searchers.
Re: Flash, Browsers and Linux. Whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
04-07-2012 4:11 PM
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Quote If google knew adobe were going to do this and google are going to be still developing flash in their own browser then that sounds like a very amicable plan for both parties, adobe can leave it and move on without too much hassle and google gets everyone using their browser until html5 is fully fledged. Or maybe I'm just paranoid
Or maybe not! http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux
Looks like Google will have millions of new old AMD Athlon users who have no choice but to use their browser! Smart move.
Re: Java and Flash, whats going on with it these days?
07-07-2012 12:17 PM
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Quote from: AverageWhiteBloke No SSE2 support on this machine, will check my home one when I get back but I'm guessing it's a done deal going by the age of my other machine. Both of which are a bit like triggers brush I think the mboard and cpu are probably the only original parts. No chance of upgrading either both have the max cpu they can take.
If I was in your situation I would consider upgrading the motherboards + CPUs.
Four years ago I needed a replacement motherboard + CPU for my mother's PC. I was able to buy both in a single transaction on eBay for £7 plus £3.50 postage. Both are still in use today, though I might need to replace them again because the CPU is an AMD Duron without SSE2!
I guess the calculation is whether the time taken up by this problem is worth more to you than, say, a round of beers!
Re: Flash, Browsers and Linux. Whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
13-07-2012 10:51 AM
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Probably is quite cheap to upgrade but I have two perfectly functioning systems here. Would be a good idea if I was upgrading for something that will be essential in future but seems a waste of time for something that's dying out anyway. I don't think it's totally dead in the water, someone sent me this saying chrome beta had made a fix but to be brutally honest I haven't got a clue what it means I guess it will all come down to what Chrome does with flash and pepper until it dies of death.
Re: Flash, Browsers and Linux. Whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
13-07-2012 11:18 AM
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Quote from: AverageWhiteBloke I don't think it's totally dead in the water, someone sent me this saying chrome beta had made a fix but to be brutally honest I haven't got a clue what it means
It looks completely unrelated because the linked code is about video hardware acceleration using the built-in graphics of the latest Intel "Sandy Bridge" CPUs!
Re: Flash, Browsers and Linux. Whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
13-07-2012 11:23 AM
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Re: Flash, Browsers and Linux. Whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
16-07-2012 7:36 PM
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Re: Flash, Browsers and Linux. Whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
16-07-2012 8:20 PM
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Linux flash was built with GCC: (GNU) 4.3.2 20081105 (Red Hat 4.3.2-7) and The Netwide Assembler 2.03.01 according to the strings in libflashplayer.so.
Re: Flash, Browsers and Linux. Whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
17-07-2012 11:26 AM
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Re: Flash, Browsers and Linux. Whats going on with it these days? [SOLVED]
20-07-2012 12:12 PM
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If I was a bit more techie there probably is a way of downloading the latest flash for windows browsers and some how making that work with a browser thats running in a virtual windows environment but that's beyond me. Just sticking with chrome 19 for now and hoping google do something with the pepper flash to get it working on linux systems.
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