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FTTC Master Socket
20-07-2012 8:40 PM
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Like many homes, there are no power sockets near the master socket. I am aware some people have had success in having their master socket swapped with an extension, but I've had another thought.
I came across this photo which suggests that the filtered VDSL is available inside the socket:
We have 6-core cable going from the master socket up to the only extension (in the room above), with two conductors in use.
Presumably one could temporarily run a power extension lead on the day of installation and have FTTC installed as per BT's wishes, and later connect the two wires themselves, and wire this up to a second socket upstairs. Is it fair to assume also that those terminals are on the customer-side of the demarcation point? Are the current FTTC master sockets identical to this?
Has anyone tried this over 2.5m-ish - any issues with crosstalk? (I'm guessing it should work)
Re: FTTC Master Socket
20-07-2012 8:42 PM
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Quote from: CX23880 filtered VDSL is available inside the socket
UNfiltered.
Re: FTTC Master Socket
20-07-2012 8:43 PM
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Re: FTTC Master Socket
20-07-2012 9:26 PM
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(I've used both ADSLnation and the BT variety)
Re: FTTC Master Socket
21-07-2012 10:35 AM
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So theoretically it could be removed entirely, and go back to filtering at the extension, OR, hard-wire the DSL as I planned.
Re: FTTC Master Socket
20-12-2012 2:49 AM
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In theory you could use one pair in a Cat5e cable to run the unfiltered vDSL to an RJ11 socket, and another pair from the front plate for filtered phone line to a standard secondary socket.
Re: FTTC Master Socket
20-12-2012 11:20 AM
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Quote from: Anotherone In theory you could use one pair in a Cat5e cable to run the unfiltered vDSL to an RJ11 socket, and another pair from the front plate for filtered phone line to a standard secondary socket.
This is what I've done (on ADSL with my own unbranded SSFP), but is it permissible to hard-wire a dedicated DSL extension to an SSFP owned by BT Openreach, bearing in mind the demarcation point? For the early versions of the faceplate, the question was moot, as they didn't have the internal unfiltered terminals, but my understanding is that all SSFPs now have them.
My argument would be that those terminals are on the end-user side of the SSFP, but given that the Openreach VDSL modem belongs to Openreach, could they argue that everything up to the RJ45 socket on the modem is "theirs".
I understand why BT have been strict with FTTC installations, as there is some awful internal wiring in use with ADSL. But in situations where the extension wiring is simple, and modern, it would be nice to have a bit more flexibility. Perhaps not full self-install, but at least give the engineers the permission to check the signal at an extension, rather than running their ugly "data extension kit" cable around your home.
Re: FTTC Master Socket
21-12-2012 9:49 AM
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Re: FTTC Master Socket
22-01-2013 1:03 PM
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Quote from: Anotherone In theory you could use one pair in a Cat5e cable to run the unfiltered vDSL to an RJ11 socket, and another pair from the front plate for filtered phone line to a standard secondary socket.
Does not even need to be Cat5e. I reused the three pair cable that originally came with the Home Highway and was run from the "NTE5" to under the stairs all of about 5m max. It has spend the last seven years running a hardwired filtered ADSL along with the extensions using a the original "modified" faceplate filter from Clarity. Now running via the new interstitial filter and working just fine.
The engineer that did my install was quite accommodating and left the NTE5 dangling as the architrave on an adjacent door needed trimming back a couple of mm to give the interstitial filter room to fit as it is quite a bit bulkier than the standard faceplate even with a faceplate filter.
What I don't understand is why they are not allowed to terminate pre existing xDSL extension wiring to the interstitial filter.
Re: FTTC Master Socket
23-01-2013 10:26 AM
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Re: FTTC Master Socket
30-01-2013 9:57 PM
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By the way I have some "two" pair twisted cable that is to Cat5e standards. It is for use with laptops that only have 100Mbps ethernet adaptors so you can carry less weight around when you are out and about. These days of course everyone uses WiFi.
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