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Email and browsing official snooping - nothing to do with Phorm or PlusNet

scootie
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Re: Email and browsing official snooping - nothing to do with Phorm or PlusNet

i think the goverment had an outing to the cinema awhile ago to watch EAGLE EYE and this has given them some  Crazy idea's
VileReynard
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Since it says "The new powers will, for the first time, place a legal duty on internet companies to store private information, including email traffic and website browsing histories."
It would be a trivial task to run a background script to access a few thousand websites and send a couple of thousand emails per day to valid but mostly non-existent email addresses.
For those with uncapped accounts, this would be the tip of the iceberg.

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Midnight_Caller
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Re: Email and browsing official snooping - nothing to do with Phorm or PlusNet

Jacqui gets a taste of her ugly snooper state 
We need to get most if not ALL of our privacy back.  We are now in George Orwell's 1984, just 25 years later than he predicted, but we are monitored everywhere.  Angry
scootie
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i feel yet another petition is in order
pierre_pierre
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Re: Email and browsing official snooping - nothing to do with Phorm or PlusNet

what people on here seem to forget is that this was foisted on us by the EU
samuria
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Re: Email and browsing official snooping - nothing to do with Phorm or PlusNet

What is more frightening is the time scale of these things. A friend of my sons got done a few weeks back as the Police had had a complaint in 2003 (yes 2003) and they took his pc and found the msn logs of him talking to a girl in 2003 in a sexual way and at the time the girl was under 16(so was the lad). He never met her  just simple talked like millions of kids do.
In this case he was let off but he could have been prosecuted and labeled a sex offender.
So you can see in 5 years they may turn up at your house as you sent an email 5 years ago.
Take an email out of context and lord know what happens. If your a gamer you could email someone saying you are going to blow them up tonight(meaning in a on line game)  they could think all sorts and lock you up as a bomber
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Re: Email and browsing official snooping - nothing to do with Phorm or PlusNet

I might be wrong but I think it has been said that they are not keeping the content just the contact details Cool
VileReynard
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That's all OK then.
I'm going to ask the post office to steam open all my incoming mail and keep records of all the people I receive mail from.
They can use the envelope to record any destination addresses.
They are welcome to record dates, times and phone numbers of all phone calls.
Same thing with all my web traffic - including secure web access.
This kind of traffic analysis can only be blocked by filling input-output channels with maximal traffic to random locations.
So I suppose I'll have to get one of these "unlimited" accounts and max it out with mostly rubbish traffic.

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Midnight_Caller
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Re: Email and browsing official snooping - nothing to do with Phorm or PlusNet

The end of privacy?
We need to get most if not ALL of our privacy back, and get out of George Orwell's 1984 state.
For anyone wanting to issue a DPA section 11 notice to a telco or mobile telco, the wizard is Here.
And if you want to tell your MP that on reflection, you want the right to private communication protected go Here to write to your MP.
pierre_pierre
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I wish people would get there facts correct before spouting out  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7985339.stm
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@pierre what have I got wrong? that article proves me right!
VileReynard
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Quote from: pierre_pierre
I wish people would get there facts correct before spouting out  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7985339.stm

As far as I can tell, the correct facts involve the building of massive databases of information suitable for traffic analysis.

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pierre_pierre
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sorry Gary wasnt pointing at you
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What I cannot seem to find out are the emails details extracted from the smtp traffic through an ISP or are the details extracted from the ISP smtp servers? If it's the latter than the emails details will not be extracted from mail sent and received to privately run emails servers and if it's the former will this not slow the traffic down?
VileReynard
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Archiving the contents is trivially easy to to bypass:
Just send in a form which is not easily readable.
Sending all the details as an attachment such as a WP document (not even encrypted) would impose an intolerable load on any search feature.

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