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Anonymous
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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

If you want one it's a one time payment of £5 for the life time of your account.

SwissRoll
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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

Many thanks for that.

 

Anyone got any further ideas on the Swiss Federal Department of Finance? BTW I've asked Plusnet support; they say FDF must be deliberately blocking me out somehow.

Browni
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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

It behaves rather strangely for me - the site loads OK but an nslookup fails Crazy2

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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

@SwissRoll

Have you tried a different browser?

If you download Opera, you can try it with and without its builtin VPN. So without VPN switched on, it will show your Plusnet IP but with it switched on, will use a VPN allocated IP address.

 

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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

@Browni - That's because you've included https:// in the lookup.

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SwissRoll
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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

Seems like people have run out of suggestions, which is a pity. But JOOI here's something I discovered on my own: if you can't get through to a website, try prefacing the URL with

https://googleweblight.com/?lite_url=

This makes Google act as a proxy, and allows you to get to the site if it is somehow blocking your IP address. It worked for me with the SFDF.

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VileReynard
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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

Works fine in Firefox.

https://www.efd.admin.ch/efd/en/home.html

Don't understand the problem.

jeremy@hector ~ $ dig www.efd.admin.ch

; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-9+deb8u10-Debian <<>> www.efd.admin.ch
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29340
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.efd.admin.ch.        IN    A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.efd.admin.ch.    2740    IN    CNAME    www.cmsp2.admin.ch.
www.cmsp2.admin.ch.    2740    IN    A    162.23.128.213

;; Query time: 9 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
;; WHEN: Tue Mar 21 12:53:01 GMT 2017
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 85

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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

Fix

It's not reachable for people with 146.198.x.x and 143.159.x.x IP addresses, both of those ranges are the ex-INFONET American ones.

The traceroute is the same for people who can access the website, which makes it look like the problem is beyond Plusnet.

SwissRoll
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Re: Difficulty accessing external website


@ejs wrote:

It's not reachable for people with 146.198.x.x and 143.159.x.x IP addresses, both of those ranges are the ex-INFONET American ones.

The traceroute is the same for people who can access the website, which makes it look like the problem is beyond Plusnet.


Strange, why might that happen? Would the website host be doing it deliberately, or is it likely to be just some accidental hangover from the past? Is it the sort of thing that happens often? I have occasionally found myself blocked out from some other websites (besides SFDF), but they are very much the exception.
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I don't really know how or why it might happen.

In the past, there were issues with these IP ranges causing various websites to tell you that you're not in the UK. But those have mostly been fixed, and services that map IP addresses to geographic location now know what town I'm in. Plus I assume this website is supposed to be available worldwide.

 

SwissRoll
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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

Very mysterious. Probably the Swiss people don't even know they're doing it. How did you know, by the way? Plusnet doesn't seem to.

Anyway I have now disconnected and reconnected and been allocated a new IP address that is not in either of these forbidden ranges. And it works. Thanks very much.

 

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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

Fails for me too with my PlusNet IP but I can connect OK via a VPN.

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Re: Difficulty accessing external website

By random chance I have ended up on a different IP address, 51.6.x.x and now I can access the site. For the record, the traceroute is:

# traceroute -q 1 -N 1 -T -p 443 www.efd.admin.ch
traceroute to www.efd.admin.ch (162.23.128.213), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  gateway (192.168.0.1)  3.420 ms
 2  *
 3  129.hiper04.sheff.dial.plus.net.uk (195.166.143.129)  24.086 ms
 4  be3-3100.pcn-ir01.plus.net (195.166.143.128)  24.616 ms
 5  core1-BE1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.125.132)  24.621 ms
 6  195.99.127.83 (195.99.127.83)  26.050 ms
 7  *
 8  *
 9  gen06are01.xe-0-1-0.bb.sunrise.net (212.161.254.191)  44.107 ms
10  194.230.36.210 (194.230.36.210)  43.648 ms
11  162.23.16.194 (162.23.16.194)  46.064 ms
12  gi03-bemon74isp-ipe1.inetbb.admin.ch (162.23.16.245)  45.104 ms
13  gi101-befll15a-sge-ice1.inetbb.admin.ch (162.23.17.250)  45.421 ms
14  193.5.216.74 (193.5.216.74)  46.487 ms
15  193.5.216.70 (193.5.216.70)  46.571 ms
16  *
17  *
18  www.cmsp2.admin.ch (162.23.128.213)  45.481 ms