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Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

chenks76
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Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

looking at setting up a guest wifi on my router.
i have the following settings to configure

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everything is fairly self explanatory apart from "Disable WMM Advertise", and "WMF.
i'll be enabling "Clients Isolation" as i don't want the guest clients to be able to see or communicate with each other.
but what do these other settings do?

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Oldjim
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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

I can't answer the question but do you realise that changing only that setting gives the wireless connections access to all the shared files on the wired network and the computers on the wired network could access all shared files on the wireless connected device

I found that and needed to change the following

You need to create a 'Interface Group' for your 'Guest Network'

Example

1. Click on Interface Grouping
2. Click on 'Add'
3. Enter a 'Group Name' eg guest
4. Under 'Available LAN Interfaces' select your 'Guest Network' and click on the arrow pointing left, so the guest wifi network should now be added to 'Grouped LAN Interfaces'
5. Click on 'Apply'
6. Under 'Group Isolation' tick the box and click on 'Apply'
7. Click on 'LAN >> Ethernet'
8. Under 'Group Name' select your guest wifi group for this example I used 'guest'
9. Tick 'LAN Side Firewall' and click on 'Apply'

That should be it, the guest wifi network should be totally isolated.

chenks76
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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

yes i did know about that as well.
it does seem quite a clunky way of setting up a guest wifi.
you'd think that by default a guest wifi would isolate itself from everything on the network.
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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

WMM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Multimedia_Extensions

WMF is "wireless multicast forwarding" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicast

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chenks76
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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

and in the real world these are?
wikipedia links are great but don't provide real world information.
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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

WMM is wireless QoS / traffic prioritisation, and tends to be a prerequisite for using 11n rates.

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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

so best to leave it on then i guess.
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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings


@Oldjim wrote:

I can't answer the question but do you realise that changing only that setting gives the wireless connections access to all the shared files on the wired network and the computers on the wired network could access all shared files on the wireless connected device

I found that and needed to change the following

You need to create a 'Interface Group' for your 'Guest Network'

Example

1. Click on Interface Grouping
2. Click on 'Add'
3. Enter a 'Group Name' eg guest
4. Under 'Available LAN Interfaces' select your 'Guest Network' and click on the arrow pointing left, so the guest wifi network should now be added to 'Grouped LAN Interfaces'
5. Click on 'Apply'
6. Under 'Group Isolation' tick the box and click on 'Apply'
7. Click on 'LAN >> Ethernet'
8. Under 'Group Name' select your guest wifi group for this example I used 'guest'
9. Tick 'LAN Side Firewall' and click on 'Apply'

That should be it, the guest wifi network should be totally isolated.


 

ok have done all that.
so the end result should be that any device connected to the guest wifi will get internet access but will not be able to see or communicate with any other device on any other part of the network?

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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

should do - it worked when I tried it

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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

yeah seems to do.

is it possible to limit/restrict bandwidth on the guest network?
so that anyone on the guest wifi is limited to, say, 25% of the total bandwidth?
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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

i'm also having a problem with hiding one SSID but leaving the other visible.

the plan is to hide the SSID of the real WIFI network, but leave the guest one visible.
however when i hide the real WIFI network it also seems to hide the guest wifi, even though that one is set to visible.
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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

Looking at the relevant page it does appear that you can selectively hide the guest SSID but hiding the base SSID hides everything which is rather silly

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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

yes that appears to be the case.
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Re: Billion 8800 - Guest WIFI settings

i managed to get this working.
main wifi - hidden
guest wifi - visible

it took enabled and disabling the hidden status a few times and rebooting the router.