BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
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BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
31-07-2009 7:54 PM
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I have just migrated from tiscali(and am I glad!) and was just wondering if I am missing out speedwise for not using the Thomson tg585 v7 that plusnet kindly sent me( I have kept it for now as spare just in case!).
I have been using BT Voyager 2110 for last couple of years with no problems.Since the router was already connected with my pc(and 2 other pcs via bt adapter) all I have to do was change the user name and password and all is working fine.
Just wondering! Is Thomson TG585v7 better than BT Voyager 2110! Am I missing out on speed or anything else!
Would be interested to hear your views. Many thanks
hokeye
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Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
01-08-2009 11:04 AM
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
01-08-2009 11:19 AM
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Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
01-08-2009 11:37 AM
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Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
01-08-2009 11:39 AM
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Will see how the next 10 dayss goes speedwise!Hope it settles down!
Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
01-08-2009 6:29 PM
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My speeds average between 3MB and 3.5MB.
Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
01-08-2009 7:27 PM
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But I have acquired a Thomson TG585v7 - and although I too was skeptical at first and didn't much like their admin interface, I have left it running and 95+% of the time it just does the job. OK - I don't need to do anything clearer with xboxs - etc etc - but it just works.
So as a cost effective router for ISP's to supply for the average user - I think it does the job just fine.
If you are a techie or have some special requirements - then ok get something else.
But how it compares with the BT Voyager 2110 - sorry I don't have experience of that piece of kit.. But if you plan to stay with PN for a year - then getting a spare router can't be a bad idea.
Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
01-08-2009 9:30 PM
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Performance wise, neither of the two routers is significantly better than the other. I'm currently using a 2Wire 2700HGV which are renown or their ability to keep hold of a connection on flaky lines.
Bob Pullen
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Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
02-08-2009 1:00 PM
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I have a speed problem at the moment .This is my third day with PN. It was alright first 2 days and suddenly the download speed has dropped considerably ie from 1770kbps to 128kbps! In the evening its worse and takes ages to download a bbc page.
I noticed from the speed test The IPS address has changed from 87.112.2.55 to 87.112.74.87 for some reason, could be the reason!
Could be a problem at the exchange may be! Technical dept is looking into now.Thanks for the feedback
Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
02-08-2009 9:52 PM
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Quote from: hokeye I noticed from the speed test The IPS address has changed from 87.112.2.55 to 87.112.74.87 for some reason, could be the reason!
You IP address will change from time to time as it's dynamic.
Bob Pullen
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Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
10-08-2009 4:59 PM
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Quote from: Bob Having said that, I did develop a problem with the Voyager where is wouldn't auto-reconnect after losing the DSL signal. This meant that I had to manually access the router console to tell it to reconnect or physically reboot the device.
I never had this problem with my own Voyager, but one of my referrals did. Every few days even when set to "Always on" it would loose connection and browsing to the router web interface would show the "ready to connect" screen. Latest firmware didn't help. The solution was to change the connection from PPPoA to PPPoE.
From what I have read, PPPoE should be the "wrong" setting and also has more overheads so not as efficient but it seems to have worked for me.
Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
10-08-2009 10:27 PM
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Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
02-11-2009 9:16 PM
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See my post "TG585 V7 Frequent Freak-Outs"
My average speed is good (up-to 5Mbps towards midnight) but it DOES seem to go up-and-down which may be what's tripping the Thompson up.
I would second the 'If it ain't broke..' comment.
Cheers,
Paul
Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
02-11-2009 10:29 PM
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Quote from: mal0z But I have acquired a Thomson TG585v7 - and although I too was skeptical at first and didn't much like their admin interface, I have left it running and 95+% of the time it just does the job. OK - I don't need to do anything clearer with xboxs - etc etc - but it just works.
So as a cost effective router for ISP's to supply for the average user - I think it does the job just fine.
If you are a techie or have some special requirements - then ok get something else.
Funnily enough I've developed a sneaking regard for Thomson routers (OK, OK, I'll keep taking the pills ).
The web-based interface on the consumer-grade models is appalling without a doubt but, once you get to grips with the CLI, you suddenly realise that there's a whole load of functionality hidden away inside them which you just can't get on any other router for the same dirt cheap price (including higher level stuff such as Drayteks). Examples are:-
- full partitioning of the switch
- switch port mirroring (so you can packet sniff a port without it going through something else)
- full 802.11q tagged vlans, not just cheapo port based vlans such as Draytek and Zyxel offer
- full scripting (which is why ISPs like 'em as you don't need custom firmware)
- log files that are persistent over reboots
- a save command that backs up every setting
- a CLI that's consistent (both of itself and across different Thomson platforms) and hides the underlying Linux architecture (something that Netgear et al could do with investing in)
- a good NAT and packet filtering implementation (although granted it's so comprehensive that it's hard to learn)
- once you've found it there's some good technical documentation that pretty well covers all of the above
- most of them have got a pretty reasonable Broadcom chipset inside them - I've an 780WL here which maintains a higher sync rate and lower error count than a DG834 running DGTeam firmware on a 53dB attenuation line
OK, a lot of the above isn't useful for the average man-in-the-street who just wants the thing to work, but for rabid techies like myself they're pretty good cheap routers if you're prepared to forgo some of the obviously missing bits (eg SNR margin fiddling, proper syslog support, SNMP support in the most recent firmwares). If you want some of the missing bits then you can always look at the more business orientated stuff.
Re: BT Voyager 2110 v Thomson TG585v7
10-11-2009 8:51 PM
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Speed is also up a bit
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