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Grafter
Posts: 75
Registered: 30-07-2007

folder list order different to reading order

I have noticed a couple of times that the order of emails displayed in the folder listing is sometimes different to the order you read them when using the "Next Message" button (bottom right hand corner).  Just tested it with SquirrelMail and the listed order is the same as the reading order.
Attached is a screen shot from SquirrelMail and from RoundCube folder lists.  I've also included edited versions of the messages headers in the order that roundCube reads them  (I'm guessing the list is using one date for ordering whilst the "Next" message uses a different date?)
1st in list, 1st read
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Delivery-date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:36:54 +0100
Received: from exprod5mx286.postini.com ([64.18.0.110] helo=psmtp.com)
  by pih-sunmxcore16.plus.net with smtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Kk24b-0007ex-3i
  for yyyy@xxxxxxxx.plus.com; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:36:53 +0100
Received: from source ([78.109.161.117]) by exprod5mx286.postini.com ([64.18.4.14]) with SMTP;
Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:35:17 PDT
Received: by 161.116.srvlist.ukfast.net (Postfix, from userid 4Cool
id DDF89493985; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:33:28 +0100 (BST)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:33:28 +0100
From: SVP Buyers' Club <noreply@svpbuyersclub.co.uk>
Subject: It's Manic Monday At SVP

3rd in list, 2nd read
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Delivery-date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:35:40 +0100
Received: from exprod5mx214.postini.com ([64.18.0.73] helo=psmtp.com)
  by pih-sunmxcore09.plus.net with smtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Kk17K-00026a-2Z
  for yyyy@xxxxxxxx.plus.com; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:35:40 +0100
Received: from source ([195.99.147.18]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx214.postini.com ([64.18.4.11]) with SMTP;
Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:33:57 EDT
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost.localdomain)
by donaldbyrd.somethinelse.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43)
id 1Kk14c-0001Fv-LE; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:32:50 +0100
Received: from twinship.somethinelse.com ([192.168.1.244])
by donaldbyrd.somethinelse.com with esmtp (Exim 4.43)
id 1Kk0ov-0007Tz-7I for hit40uk-newsletter@lists.somethinelse.com;
Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:16:37 +0100
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:16:35 +0100
From: hit40uk-newsletter@lists.somethinelse.com
Subject: [hit40uk] Newsletter | 2008/09/28

2nd in list, 3rd read
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Delivery-date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:28:42 +0100
Received: from exprod5mx265.postini.com ([64.18.0.88] helo=psmtp.com)
  by pih-sunmxcore11.plus.net with smtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1Kk10a-0000ej-K2
  for yyyy@xxxxxxxx.plus.com; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:28:42 +0100
Received: from source ([208.49.63.138]) by exprod5mx265.postini.com ([64.18.4.14]) with SMTP;
Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:28:38 PDT
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:29:00 -0000
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?hmv=2Ecom?= <hmv@email.hmv.com>
Subject: =This_week's_offers_include_Brideshead_Revisited_box_set_


Noticed this earlier in the day, that time the out of synch message was about 6 items down, only noticed it because it was a spam message (thought I'd deleted them all, and that something had gone wrong when I read it)
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Superuser
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Re: folder list order different to reading order

It looks like Squirrelmail lists and reads in delivery time order (which seems sensible), but Roundcube lists in create time order then reads in delivery time order. My feeling is that listing in create time order is not what most users would expect (and I assume a well behaved relay sender is required for the creation time (Date) header to be present).
There are a couple of tickets (#1484664 and #1485144) concerned with message sorting order. Both are active, targeting release 0.2-stable for completion. I'm not sure whether these will affect what is reported here.
David
Edit: Hyperlinked Traq ticket numbers.
David
Community Gaffer
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Re: folder list order different to reading order

Quote from: spraxyt
My feeling is that listing in create time order is not what most users would expect

Isn't that one of the things Thunderbird tends to do differently to other mail clients?

Bob Pullen
Plusnet Products Team
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Midnight_Caller
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Re: folder list order different to reading order

I fort that it was my dyslexia kicking in, can this be fikst?  It is annoying.