Various Plusnet routers?
Ah ok, I have no idea what I'm searching for on Amazon then really @Baldrick1 , it's honestly quite misleading when you're not that clued up on them. I searched "Router" on Amazon and that came up titled "WAVLINK AC1200 Smart WiFi Router, Dual Band Gigabit Ethernet Wireless Router 867 Mbps/5 GHz + 300 Mbps/2.4, 1 USB Port, Supports Smart App Control UK Plug (531G3)" - so I just thought it was haha
Are these the right results here: Amazon Router Search 
@robbieglover2k wrote:
Just to add @bmc I've just googled those hubs you mentioned and you can tell, I had no idea haha
The interesting thing is this from a 2017 article (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link articles here so I'll just paste a bit)
"BT Smart Hub is much better than Sky, Virgin, and TalkTalk hubs, according to internal testing.When the new BT Smart Hub (aka Home Hub 6) was unveiled, BT it boldly claimed that the router had the UK's most powerful Wi-Fi signals, and thus the implicit assertion that BT broadband is the best choice for fast, reliable downloads throughout the house.
The new BT Smart Hub is also capable of creating a Wi-Fi connection with a laptop 500 metres away through a single wall, or a tablet at 350m, says BT."
If this is so then that's great when they upgrade
If you can link articles here then I'll share it of course but I just don't want to break any forum rules
Don’t believe everything you read from BT! I had a Smarthub and it was anything but smart. BT took a long time to get the firmware right. The Wi-Fi performance isn’t anywhere near as good as BT claimed. They did get their knuckles wrapped by the ASA. I use the BT Whole Home Wi-Fi (I have 3) and, after several attempts by BT at getting the firmware right, it is excellent.
@TheJayBee wrote:
@robbieglover2k wrote:
Just to add @bmc I've just googled those hubs you mentioned and you can tell, I had no idea haha
The interesting thing is this from a 2017 article (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link articles here so I'll just paste a bit)
"BT Smart Hub is much better than Sky, Virgin, and TalkTalk hubs, according to internal testing.When the new BT Smart Hub (aka Home Hub 6) was unveiled, BT it boldly claimed that the router had the UK's most powerful Wi-Fi signals, and thus the implicit assertion that BT broadband is the best choice for fast, reliable downloads throughout the house.
The new BT Smart Hub is also capable of creating a Wi-Fi connection with a laptop 500 metres away through a single wall, or a tablet at 350m, says BT."
If this is so then that's great when they upgrade
If you can link articles here then I'll share it of course but I just don't want to break any forum rules
Don’t believe everything you read from BT! I had a Smarthub and it was anything but smart. BT took a long time to get the firmware right. The Wi-Fi performance isn’t anywhere near as good as BT claimed. They did get their knuckles wrapped by the ASA. I use the BT Whole Home Wi-Fi (I have 3) and, after several attempts by BT at getting the firmware right, it is excellent.
Oh I know @TheJayBee, that's the problem with ISP's lately though you can't find one that doesn't have frustrating problems. I hear a lot of people praising Sky who have been with them many years the most but they also have their fair share of problems too as I've seen that also.
I don't even blame the ISP's half the time to be honest as it's not really their fault but a lot of the times the infrastructure most of us are on with the old copper wiring which they are currently upgrading to the whole FTTP setup which should have been done a long time ago, we're playing catch up big time here.
Of course there's often setup problems too but it has been difficult for most people to settle with an ISP they want to stay with long term, people tend to move around because they have a lot of trouble only to find they have the same with the one's they move to, it's quite difficult really.
We have dropped to like 81st in the world or something lagging behind on broadband now because we've never upgraded our infrastructure while broadband and technology has advanced and now we're struggling and having problems.