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New IPv6 Trial announced

Dan_the_Van
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Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

@Champnet 

Maybe it should have been MCSE, possible editorial failure at ISP Review, wouldn't be the first time!

Townman
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Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Cheesy
Not me - I could not pass the exams - I knew the technical practicalities but could never get the right answers to the marketing spin questions.

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corringham
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Re: Movement on PN IPv6


@Protech wrote:

A question is why Plusnet's rekindled interest in IPv6 now ?

 


 Perhaps it will ease the en-masse migration of Plusnet's customer base to EE?

Champnet
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Re: Movement on PN IPv6

@Townman  For years I ran Novell systems, netware versions 2, 3 & 4. For a while I thought about going for the NCE certificate. Reading the course notes I realised that what they were teaching bore no resemblance to the way real systems were being run so I didn’t bother.  I reached the the top of my profession, the only qualification being experience. Don’t think I would get away with that now….

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Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Everybody knows it's Money Saving Expert 🙂

Dan_the_Van
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Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Not sure Money Saving Expert works in this context

Low volume technical trial
up to ~20 staff and friendly customers
2 MSEs in Chesterfield/Sheffield
Each MSE to be assigned a /41
Each customer to be assigned a dynamic /56
AAAA DNS over IPv4

Maybe choose an acronym  from this list https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MSE 

or

I have a sense of humour bypass 🙄

summers
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Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Thats interesting my 6to4 router is now 46.208.153.180 which is inside plus.net - they always used to redirect it to he.net. So plusnet do seem to have an operational ip6 router that they are using now!

Edit scrub that - although the above plusnet computer is involved, a traceroute to  192.88.99.1 gives:


traceroute to 192.88.99.1 (192.88.99.1), 30 hops max, 46 byte packets
 1  *  *  *
 2  129.hiper04.sheff.dial.plus.net.uk (195.166.143.129)  25.281 ms  26.237 ms  25.412 ms
 3  128.hiper04.sheff.dial.plus.net.uk (195.166.143.128)  25.031 ms  25.605 ms  25.974 ms
 4  core5-hu0-7-0-15.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.36)  26.595 ms  core5-hu0-3-0-15.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (109.159.252.132)  26.175 ms  core5-hu0-7-0-15.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.36)  25.850 ms
 5  core6-hu0-7-0-35.faraday.ukcore.bt.net (62.6.201.247)  26.764 ms  166-49-209-194.gia.bt.net (166.49.209.194)  25.279 ms  26.483 ms
 6  *  40ge1-3.core1.lon2.he.net (195.66.224.21)  42.997 ms  *
 7  *  *  *
 8  192.88.99.1 (192.88.99.1)  32.930 ms  33.289 ms  33.027 ms

summers
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Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

And whilst looking into where plus.net is on ipv6 from the connection on my side. I can see that the the ppp chat that is started on my side,  successfully LCP/CHAT authenticates, via IPCP it sets the IPv4 parameters (local ip, gateway ip, and DNS1 and DNS2). My machine also sends "sent [IPV6CP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr fe80::21ed:fc30:756b:44c8>]" the plus.net chat doesn't respond to this; so looks like this chat hasn't yet implemented rfc5072 and so don't do or respond to IPV6CP negotiations. Hence IPv6 can't be agreed with plus.net.

Guess this was what I was expecting to happen, so just posting here so there is a record of recording this. Means though that my machine is already listening for when IPv6 is switched on ...

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Re: Movement on PN IPv6


@MJN wrote:

I (and my IPv6 cat feeder!) was on the original trial and would be very keen to support this one too.

Edit: Ah, I see from the slides that the trial would initially be focused on 'Low Touch' side of the network which given I've got a static IPv4 address would rule me out. Great news never the less, and I hope it goes well!


 

Same goes for me (on both counts) - I didn't actually see this forum thread until just now, but I do look at the UK IPv6 Council talks from time to time.  Since the video of the presentation didn't go up straight away (and it isn't obvious from this thread that there is one to find)...

All of the talks (slides and videos) from the Sept 2023 meeting are here (interesting talks by Google and Meta staff about their progress in turning off IPv4 across chunks of their internal infrastructure) and the video of the presentation itself is:

summers
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Re: Movement on PN IPv6

I wonder if it worked on @DaveTomlinson connection, so first part of the trial passed?

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summers
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Re: Movement on PN IPv6

Oops got the ping to @dave wrong! Well Dave did you get IPv6 to work just for yourself?

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Re: Movement on PN IPv6

Nope!

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Re: Movement on PN IPv6


@Protech wrote:

 

One takeaway from this presentation is that this forum is IPv6 enabled, which has been suspected for by some for a while 😉


 

First noticed 13th March 2021 in this forum post - Since when did the Plusnet Forum become IPv6 enabled ? 

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Re: Movement on PN IPv6

That has nothing to do with Plusnet delivering an IPv6 infrastructure. The forum service is not delivered from within the Plusnet estate.

Such was one of the key decisions on the “new” forum platform - that it be hosted off the Plusnet infrastructure so that in the event of a major DC outage, the forum would still be available for support.

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Re: Movement on PN IPv6

Do Plusnet have any plans for making IPV6 available to customers who would like to try it?