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22-07-2010 1:03 PM
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Looks like I am much the same position as john50 (a few topics back) in having problems moving from talktalk to plusnet - including no phone service for three days and no broadband for four (and counting).
I decided to return to PN from TT (LLU) because
i) from day 1 the phone did not always ring on incoming calls. Pretty fundamental - what do you buy phone service for?
ii) Caller ID not always provided on both incoming and outgoing calls
iii) Broadband reliability issues this spring - apparently DNS load sharing was broken. How hard _should_ it be to find iPlayer?
iv) Last and by no means least, TT's legendary poor customer service - which I thought was at least something PN had worked out, but you've changed since I was last here, and not in a good way.
A 2-3 week lead time order, with the promise of no break in service, has turned into a three week wait, and one week of break in service. I think its seven people I've spoken to on the phone at PN since the line died on Monday morning, with calls terminating at TT voicemail (which I will never be able to access). They all say it'll be fixed in a few days, but nothing happens and why the break in the first place.
Some time yesterday a voice line started working, but no broadband, no caller ID and no router (but hey, apparently charging won't start until the order is complete
)
I guess my complaint is two fold.
A) Don't transfer my physical connection until you KNOW you can turn me on immediately. That's what no-break means -surely?
B) Communicate with me. I'm a big boy, and this not rocket science - tell me what you're doing, and then make it happen. Don't do what one of your agents did on Tuesday - leave me a voicemail saying (in terms) yes agree its broken, we'll give you an update on Thursday. Spend the time making the thing that should already have been completed happen now, immediately, soonest...
The only reliable communication I had had from PN was an email (received in the hour the TT phone died) to say the transfer would take another 2-3 weeks (I don't count the almost random mobile voicemail and SMS you sent - these are not proper means of business communication).
I did have an inkling that an LLU transfer back to BT would be painful, but the reverse route was no problem, so naively I thought this would be OK.
A VERY bumpy start to my new business relationship with PN. I really hope its better from here, but I have to say the likelihood of me recommending you in the next half year is pretty slim.
In the meantime PN, any idea when the missing features will happen? [My new user account name is the same as my old one but prefixed by the letter 's'. This forum username was created when I had the old account which was closed 2 yrs ago. If you can't find my account, check what active accounts are associated with this forum username's email address.]
Best regards,
simonsse
I decided to return to PN from TT (LLU) because
i) from day 1 the phone did not always ring on incoming calls. Pretty fundamental - what do you buy phone service for?
ii) Caller ID not always provided on both incoming and outgoing calls
iii) Broadband reliability issues this spring - apparently DNS load sharing was broken. How hard _should_ it be to find iPlayer?
iv) Last and by no means least, TT's legendary poor customer service - which I thought was at least something PN had worked out, but you've changed since I was last here, and not in a good way.
A 2-3 week lead time order, with the promise of no break in service, has turned into a three week wait, and one week of break in service. I think its seven people I've spoken to on the phone at PN since the line died on Monday morning, with calls terminating at TT voicemail (which I will never be able to access). They all say it'll be fixed in a few days, but nothing happens and why the break in the first place.

Some time yesterday a voice line started working, but no broadband, no caller ID and no router (but hey, apparently charging won't start until the order is complete

I guess my complaint is two fold.
A) Don't transfer my physical connection until you KNOW you can turn me on immediately. That's what no-break means -surely?
B) Communicate with me. I'm a big boy, and this not rocket science - tell me what you're doing, and then make it happen. Don't do what one of your agents did on Tuesday - leave me a voicemail saying (in terms) yes agree its broken, we'll give you an update on Thursday. Spend the time making the thing that should already have been completed happen now, immediately, soonest...
The only reliable communication I had had from PN was an email (received in the hour the TT phone died) to say the transfer would take another 2-3 weeks (I don't count the almost random mobile voicemail and SMS you sent - these are not proper means of business communication).
I did have an inkling that an LLU transfer back to BT would be painful, but the reverse route was no problem, so naively I thought this would be OK.
A VERY bumpy start to my new business relationship with PN. I really hope its better from here, but I have to say the likelihood of me recommending you in the next half year is pretty slim.
In the meantime PN, any idea when the missing features will happen? [My new user account name is the same as my old one but prefixed by the letter 's'. This forum username was created when I had the old account which was closed 2 yrs ago. If you can't find my account, check what active accounts are associated with this forum username's email address.]
Best regards,
simonsse
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Re: New Phone (2)
22-07-2010 2:33 PM
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There're a few things here that I need to take a look at so give me a minute...
Edit: After looking into your account I can see split the problems down into two camps.
Firstly, we've not been keeping you up to date. I'm sorry about this and I've asked Karima in the Provisioning Team to take ownership and keep you informed.
Secondly, there have been numerous delays with your order. Your previous providers took a long time to return the authorisation for us to transfer your service away and then problems with our suppliers have caused delays with the order, once it was placed. We'll make sure we now move with this order as quickly as possible.
When we transfer your service there should be no reason for any downtime if everything runs smoothly. It appears, in your case, that your previous provider have placed restrictions on your service. There's no 'immediate transfer' that you refer to.
Edit: After looking into your account I can see split the problems down into two camps.
Firstly, we've not been keeping you up to date. I'm sorry about this and I've asked Karima in the Provisioning Team to take ownership and keep you informed.
Secondly, there have been numerous delays with your order. Your previous providers took a long time to return the authorisation for us to transfer your service away and then problems with our suppliers have caused delays with the order, once it was placed. We'll make sure we now move with this order as quickly as possible.
When we transfer your service there should be no reason for any downtime if everything runs smoothly. It appears, in your case, that your previous provider have placed restrictions on your service. There's no 'immediate transfer' that you refer to.
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23-07-2010 8:21 AM
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Yes it seems you have identical problems, could it be coincedence we are both migrating from Talk Talk!!!
Got the basic phone service up and running now and recieved my router yesterday (Thanks Ben) just waiting for the BB.
It'll be worth it in the end (I hope) customer service here is a joy to behold compared to TT
Got the basic phone service up and running now and recieved my router yesterday (Thanks Ben) just waiting for the BB.
It'll be worth it in the end (I hope) customer service here is a joy to behold compared to TT
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26-07-2010 10:00 PM
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Thank you Ben Trimble - the two problems you mention were pretty much my first two issues - and I have had an email from Karima.
However I am now away on hols so won't be able to tell whether the BB is up, certainly my home phone control panel has burst into life, and is showing no Caller ID or Voicemail (both ordered on line when I placed the transfer order), and charges for landline calls (which should already be included in the Anytime package ordered at that time). So not only is PN not communicating with me, its not communicating with itself. Still unimpressed.
The router was delivered by the postman as I was packing the car to leave, so I've not even unpacked it yet. The anticipation of arriving home to find BB or no BB - I can hardly wait.
You might say there is no break promised, but read your own web site - no break is what it said. Certainly if you knew there were issues with the authorisation to transfer from TalkTalk you shouldn't have started the transfer and left me in limbo. Still unimpressed 2.
And what's this coyness about "our suppliers". You've transferred me back to BT from TT. Excellent, but IIRC PN is a BT group company. So yes I have a contract with PN, but for me, the customer I see it all as indivisibly BT. Potential for unimpressedness here too.
Anyway, mustn't grumble all night. Its been a beautiful few days camping in Somerset - good weather for the first time in four years, and with a following wind all this will be sorted by the time I get back. Hope you're all enjoying whatever you're doing this week.
simonsse
However I am now away on hols so won't be able to tell whether the BB is up, certainly my home phone control panel has burst into life, and is showing no Caller ID or Voicemail (both ordered on line when I placed the transfer order), and charges for landline calls (which should already be included in the Anytime package ordered at that time). So not only is PN not communicating with me, its not communicating with itself. Still unimpressed.
The router was delivered by the postman as I was packing the car to leave, so I've not even unpacked it yet. The anticipation of arriving home to find BB or no BB - I can hardly wait.
You might say there is no break promised, but read your own web site - no break is what it said. Certainly if you knew there were issues with the authorisation to transfer from TalkTalk you shouldn't have started the transfer and left me in limbo. Still unimpressed 2.
And what's this coyness about "our suppliers". You've transferred me back to BT from TT. Excellent, but IIRC PN is a BT group company. So yes I have a contract with PN, but for me, the customer I see it all as indivisibly BT. Potential for unimpressedness here too.
Anyway, mustn't grumble all night. Its been a beautiful few days camping in Somerset - good weather for the first time in four years, and with a following wind all this will be sorted by the time I get back. Hope you're all enjoying whatever you're doing this week.
simonsse
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27-07-2010 10:44 AM
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Unfortunately we can't predict problems in advance. If we could, there never would be any. Karima has your update on the ticket and will address all of these issues.
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