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I think we might have discussed this topic before but the current situation is dire many farmers are likely to go out of business, to rely on future milk supplies coming from abroad is risky, short term the low price might be good news but long term it could end up being far more expensive
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I`m in favour of paying a "proper" price for Milk.... It may well be considered a "vital" part of diet, and an essential item in the shopping cart.,... but the farmers have been bullied by the supermarkets to drive their sales..... Selling milk as a "loss leader" is tantamount  to piracy, as far as I am concerned.... .
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Just a thought  Huh
Farming is a business. If their product is not profitable why not move into cereals or meat? The could start with the dairy cows  Roll eyes
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Yes, you have a "business" idea there... BUT.. many, Dairy Farms, are not capable of going into cereal production, ... it takes years to get the ground into condition,... and also the "lie of the land" may not be conducive to modern crop machinery.... also, the scale of size comes into the factors here... Dairy cattle survive in relatively small fields, which they use on a rotational basis to give the grassland time to recoup,... to convert to cereal production would entail grubbing out hedgerows on a grand scale, to make the fields larger to enable the cereals to be grown on a big enough scale....then you have to plough up all that land, and prepare it... 
not as simple as it looks,  is it....  ?

And the supermarkets will drive down their buying price, because they will say, " accept what we offer or we go to your neighbour".... which is exactly how they drive their buying prices down, across the board...

Supermarkets are great. the principle of buy big and sell low, works well for the consumer.... but... they need to be able to see into the future, and , as the O.P. has alluded, if they drive the U.K dairy business/farming into capitulation, they ( the supermarkets ), will be FORCED to buy from abroad, which means, they will HAVE to pay what the foreign market price is.... AND they will have to add on the transport costs, and the "unreliablity" factor in the supply chain, due to bad weather, or distances travelled,. (  E.G...... Coal..... Oil.... Gas... and even Electricity )
The U.K Dairy industry is (probably) the best in the world,.... and there is an old saying...... "don`t bite the hand that feeds you"... which the supermarkets should take note of......
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Could start milking humans, after all, human milk is better for humans than cows milk is... Grin
Just a question of who gets to be milked and who does the milking... Cheesy
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@ 2cv bloke...... perhaps you should go away and do some research into it...      Roll eyes
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Grin
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This could turn into a serious issue.  Farmers are being paid 20p a litre but it costs them 28p a litre to produce the milk. A year ago they were paid 34p.
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Loss leading by the supermarket is leading to losses by the dairy farmers.  Time for the EU to step up to the plate and set a minimum milk price. Nobody gains in the long run if milk is produced at a loss.
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A statement from Tesco
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Tesco sources its milk from a group of 600 farmers and said prices were always above the cost of production: “Whatever price we charge, it doesn’t impact on how we pay our farmers,” a spokesperson said.
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well they would say that,  ... wouldn`t they

Huh
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If it's wrong you can bet one of the farmers will come forward and say Wink
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So if Tesco's price of milk (£1.48 for 6 pints) is good for farmers, then why did it cost almost £2 before they got into the "milk wars"?? Roll eyes
Oh, yeah, forgot, every little helps their profits go up...
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Perhaps you should read their statement again and then you might answer your own question Smiley