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knee support

Been having a few problems with one of my knees, probably due to all the fell walking I do combined with my age, anyway I would be interested to hear from anyone who uses or has knowledge of these thing or anyone who has knee problems and uses other methods to deal with the problem.
The internet is full of various knee supports with a range of feedback from others so it's difficult to know what to go for.
Please feel free to PM me if you have no wish to detail personal information about this topic on the forum.
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sjptd
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Re: knee support

I bought one from Boots (probably http://www.boots.com/en/Boots-Neoprene-Knee-Support-Large_1121305/ , certainly very simimilar).  It was a little more expensive than 'basic' ones but still pretty reasonable, and I found it very effective.  Mainly for not very arduous cycling, not lucky enough to live within easy reach of the fells.  I'll certainly make sure I have got it for our next trip to west of Scotland.  A little bit sweaty by the end of the day, but not seriously so.
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Re: knee support

Speaking as someone who's had both knees replaced my advice is - see your GP!
I had to wait a year for my first knee and it was agony! The second knee followed about 6 months later and I was in even worse agony - full strength pain patches and 8 Tramadol a day!
If your knees are beginning to fail, then the sooner you get 'on the list' the better!
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They say that knee replacement is a much more painful procedure than a hip replacement, odd that I am having intermittent pain & swelling in one knee but no problem with hips.
I intend to keep well away from the Doctors for as long as possible as the pain is fairly mild and both pain and swelling come and go. Voltarol cream is fairly effective at reducing the pain.
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I don't quite get why you would want to keep away from doctors?
You should see your GP get a referral to a MSK (musculoskeletal) clinic and they will look at your options. It may be something that can be improved, or even cured, with some physiotherapy.
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Often knee pain can be 'referred' from the hip so see your doctor and have yourself checked out. I had knee pain (still do to a degree) but after my hip replacements my knees got better. Get your GP to have X-Rays etc done to find out where the problem is.
AndyH suggested MSK treatment but there tends to be a wait to get into these facilities unless you go privately. 6-8 weeks is not uncommon if you are not classed as urgent.
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Re: knee support

Saw my doctor about knee pain
Sent for X-ray
Result - You have mild arthritis - tough
Self help
I tried unhydrolysed Collagen 2 from chickens
Result - knee pain went away and so did the problem of ankles and feet swelling when walking
Apparently this product inhibits your antibodies from attacking exposed cartilage http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/48
Whether this is correct or not I have no idea but it sorted my problems
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Unfortunately, I have raging arthritis in both knees (a matched pair) I've had the arthroscopes that have confirmed it and that I need replacements. Again unfortunately, For reasons that twice a day I have to physically lift my disabled wife into and out of bed <there are multitude of reasons why we can't have mechanical lifting apparatus in that room, no reason to go into that here, but just to say the only alternative is to move home, which we don't want to do>  It does mean though I can't have knee replacements as I won't be able to lift my wife afterwards (I assure we have looked into every other alternative at great length) So I tend to put up with the discomfort of the arthritis.
My GP willingly injects my knees with hydro cortisone at the beginning of the outdoor bowls season (end of April) which just about lasts until close of play in early September. GP is reluctant to inject more than once a year because of possible problems (crystallisation?) Cortisone doesn't get rid of the pain altogether but does give a lot of relief.
In the meantime, over the years I've used a variety of straps and sleeves of all types, currently the best one I've found is this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001M0A4HG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00
not as heavy as it looks and the side bars do offer some support. However all of these neoprene supports have the same disadvantage; during the summer they can become hot and sweaty inside, and not a little smelly.
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Re: knee support

That's worth a try Jim. Thank you.
You may have seen various sportspeople using a coloured tape on their bodies. I've used it a few times and it works, but I don't know how. This is the link for Knees It's available from Amazon.
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Re: knee support

Many thanks for the responses, I will certainly follow up on the information given.
It's clear that knee pain is much more common than I thought.
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I'm really surprised no one on here has been referred to a physio. Even if you have arthritis, physiotherapy can be a great help. There are many daily exercises you can do (at home or in a gym) to improve the symptoms of arthritis. Swimming is highly recommended because it's a non-impact sport.  
On the kinesio tape, there's no medical evidence of any real benefits (researchers believe it has more of a placebo effect).
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Quote from: Oldjim
Saw my doctor about knee pain
Sent for X-ray
Result - You have mild arthritis - tough
Self help
I tried unhydrolysed Collagen 2 from chickens
Result - knee pain went away and so did the problem of ankles and feet swelling when walking
Apparently this product inhibits your antibodies from attacking exposed cartilage http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/48
Whether this is correct or not I have no idea but it sorted my problems


So, Jim.... that is a bit of a "long read" ,... and full of medical notations, that most of us would not understand...
You say "Apparently this product inhibits your antibodies........."  how do you administer "this product"... and how do you get hold of it.?  is it "commercially available"... via pharmacist/doctor... does it need  a doctor to "inject" it?  if so.. how long for... if not.. then how often do you "treat" yourself ? 

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There are a couple of drugs used in dogs/horses with arthritis - cartrophen and adequan. Neither of these drugs are licensed for human use with arthritis, however people still buy them online and try to inject themselves.
The idea with collagen is that it can stimulate new cartilage growth (osteoarthritis causes wear/damage to the cartilage in your joints). However there isn't really any definitive medical proof of its benefits (prescription drugs have shown to have more of an impact).
Stem cells are one area that people are taking keen interest in.
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@AndyH, you mention that nobody has suggested physio. I sit on one of our CCGs steering groups for MSK and of course physio is a part of that. There is unfortunately a shortage of fully qualified physios and this just one of our problems.
We have an excellent pain clinic fairly locally. I've been there a number of times and received various treatments. Some work some don't. The clinic is staffed by 6 consultant pain doctors and backed up with specialist nurses and practitioners.
The KT Tape is widely used by many athletes. Placebo effect or not they get help from it.
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For a one-off injection into a lower specific and extremely painful part of the knee joint, my GP used Duralane, which was remarkably effective having had no further recurrence of the pain in three years.
The disadvantage at the time was that it was £400 a shot. GP has shown no interest in using it in other parts of the knees.
Experience; is something you gain, just after you needed it most.

When faced with two choices, simply toss a coin. It works not because it settles the question for you. But because in that brief moment while the coin is in the air. You suddenly know what you are hoping for.