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disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

TORPC
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disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

[quote= www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2790768/f-dead-pilot-shouted-air-france-jet-plunged-atlantic-final-moments-doomed-flight-447-two-sleeping-pilots-revealed.html]Excerpts from recorded conversations between 37-year-old David Robert, Pierre-Cedric Bonin, 32, and Marc Dubois, the 58-year-old captain of the plane, reveal that two of them were asleep when the plane got into difficulty in a tropical storm.
Referring to Bonin, a 'Company Baby' on the Rio de Janeiro-Paris flight, the piece reads: 'With most of the weather still lying ahead and an anxious junior pilot at the controls, Dubois decided it was time to get some sleep.'
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

It's not just the pilot's to blame for this accident  Wink
All i'm going to say is Airbus sent out service bulletin A330-34-3206 back on 14th September 2007  Lips are sealed
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

@PowerLee it's a very technical document. Is it possible to give us a summery especially as the OP seems to have been very selective in his quotation.
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

The article mentions the incident happening in 2009,
No reference that, Airbus sent out service bulletin A330-34-3206 back on 14th September  2007 (which PowerLee is referring to Wink
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

What point are you attempting to make?
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

I was pointing out that, as you said I was selective in my quotation,
That there was NO mention of the 2007 Document in the article, to which PowerLee mentioned Wink
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

Sorry but what's new in this news article?
The documentary that have been shown many times, and probably in the last fortnight, used either the actual voice recordings or transcripts.
The bulletin powerlee probably is referring to is the modifications to the speed detectors to stop false readings due to icing.
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

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That there was NO mention of the 2007 Document in the article, to which PowerLee mentioned Wink

That's because you've read it in the Daily Mail....
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

Which particular Newspaper(s) do mention it, in which you have so clearly read it ?Huh
Please provide a link to the current most up to date newspaper article (there's a good chap Wink )
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The Daily Mail have regurgitated an article in this month's Vanity Fair, which in itself was flawed and contradicts the French Air Crash Investigation Department's report http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2009/f-cp090601.en/pdf/f-cp090601.en.pdf Air France have issue a strong denial about the report claiming that two of the three pilots were asleep when the plane got into difficulty:
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Il est totalement inexact et diffamatoire d'affirmer que 2 des 3 pilotes composant l'équipage technique du vol AF447 dormaient lorsqu'ils sont entrés dans un nuage de cristaux de glace ayant entraîné la perte des informations de vitesse.
Comme l'a établi de façon formelle le BEA dans son rapport définitif, au moment de la perte des indications de vitesse, les 2 pilotes étaient dans le poste de pilotage aux commandes de l'appareil. De plus, 1 minute et 38 secondes après le début de l'incident, les 2 pilotes ont été rejoints par le commandant de bord

The Airbus service bulletin powerlee refers to, was to change the pitot probe on A320/A330/A340 aircraft to new Thales pitot probes (C16195BA) back in 2007. The new probes were designed to give more accurate air speed readings in heavy precipitation.

In light of the AF447 crash, a new service bulletin (2009-0195) was issued in 2009 requiring the pitot probes that were changed in 2007 to be replaced again. There was a flaw with the Thales pitot probe (C16195BA) in that it was not able to withstand the same level of high-altitute ice crystallisation as the Goodrich (0851HL) pitot probe. The new service bulletin required all A320/A330/A340 aircraft to use the Goodrich probes as these were the only ones that gave accurate air speed readings in heavy precipiation and also were able to withstand 'freezing up' at high altitude.
All of this has been covered in depth in the media. There have been numerous documentaries and programmes looking at what happened to AF447.
Edit: I should add, there is no 'new investigation' into AF447. I have no idea where the Daily Mail got this from (it's not even mentioned in the Vanity Fair article), but it's more drivel and bad journalism form the Daily Mail.
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

The VF http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/toc/contents-201411 does not mention anyting about it tbh
Can you provide the actual link / excerpt / Screenshot from VF, for clarification purposes ?Huh
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

I can't see anything relating to the Airbus sent out service bulletin
OH wait, I guess I need to subscribe to Download see it ?Huh

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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

Why would the Vanity Fair article mention a Service Bulletin when its article is about the last few minutes of AF447? No one ever said the Service Bulletin was in any of the articles. PowerLee correctly pointed out that it was a combination of pilot error and a flaw in the pitot probes.
If you want to read about the Service Bulletin (of which there are many), read the full BEA report.
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Re: disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330

@AndyH, thank you for the summary of the service bulletin. It seems an odd article for Vanity Fair to carry.