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Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

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Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/outdoors/8318985/Shed-owners-warned-wire-on-windows-could-hurt-burg...
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A spate of thefts in several towns and villages in Kent and Surrey over the past few months led to many householders taking action to protect their property.
Some have been warned by police that using wire mesh to reinforce shed windows was ''dangerous’’ and could lead to criminals claiming compensation if they ''hurt themselves’’.
Thieves target sheds to steal lawnmowers, power drills, bicycles and a variety of DIY tools.
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pierre_pierre
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Re: Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-12473446
makes you sick what they get away with
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Re: Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

Sick, who? Vigilantes?
We have judges, juries etc. to decide who's a criminal and who isn't.  Wink
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Re: Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

Wow just Wow, Just when you think you have seen ( heard ) It all, BAM!!! Oh how this Great British Country seems to make us the Innocent party more In the wrong than the Criminals. Angry
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Re: Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

Grrrr...I'm keeping it shut  Lips are sealed
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Re: Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

And how about the court ruling today allowing sex offenders to apply to have their names removed from the sex offenders' register because it was against their human rights?  Fortunately the government has taken a very pragmatic approach in complying with the court decision.

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I was under the impression "It was only the right to appeal" is an infringement of human rights.
I think that the right to appeal should be a fundemental part of our justice system.
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Re: Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

Next we'll have a national  " Be kind to criminals" day.
I suggest Feb 30th  Roll eyes
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Quote from: journeys
I was under the impression "It was only the right to appeal" is an infringement of human rights.

That's what I meant when I said ' allowing sex offenders to apply to have their names removed '  There's nothing to say their application will be approved though.
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Re: Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

I believe that you should be able to have your name removed from the register, there are cases where people have been convicted wrongly, and also cases where 15 year olds get convicted of a fairly minor offence and then have to spend the rest of their lives on the register, that to me is no justice at all.
The problems with this in UK though, are nothing compared to those in the US, where teenagers have taken pictures of themselves on their phones, teachers then seize the phone, see the pictures, report that to police, the district attorney then prosecutes the teen for being in possession of child pornography.  The teen then ends up being listed as a paedophile for the rest of their lives on a list public accessible and face harvestmen, violence, no job prospects and should any children go missing in the area where they live, they are top of the police list.
For me the US situation is a serious miscarriage of justice, and convicting a teen for the crime of having a picture of their own body sends a hugely perverse message to them about the acceptability of their own body.
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Re: Would you really believe it - apologies to all who might be offended (NOT)

'Steal a little and they throw you in jail
Steal a lot and they make you king'            Bob Dylan
Not condoning petty theft for one minute but I reckon Dylan hit the nail on the head with this one; think those in power abusing the financial system resulting in huge losses then being re-imbursed by yours and my tax payments 
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@fourfourdevon - I've never heard the example you quote in the US.  Is it factual or anecdotal?
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It's real http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/08/teen_charged_for_cell_phone_pics/ I will continue to look for other instances, I've read about half dozen cases over the last few years.
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Thanks for finding the example.  It is over 2 years old though and I wonder if it is an isolated case.
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Just found this article which seems to indicate common sense has taken over.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/18/teen_pic_court_ruling/