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Re: Words I hate

Quote from: Loombucket
I've lost count of the number of times I've been onsite with a customer and heard the dreaded three words....
"While you're here...."

...or the dreaded 'It'll only be five minutes'
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Re: Words I hate

Not really part of this thread I suppose, but an interesting use of language.
Did you realise that most police areas have an "anitsocial behaviour co-ordinator".  I presume that that's someone who co-ordinates antisocial behaviour.  That must be an interesting job! Wink
John
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Re: Words I hate

Quote from: Loombucket
I've lost count of the number of times I've been onsite with a customer and heard the dreaded three words....
"While you're here...."
Roll_eyes


Hmmm... But perversely there is a beauty to it... That is the question that they have wanted to know the answer to longer than the one they contacted you about.
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Re: Words I hate

Quote from: hulls
It's the same as "disk" and "disc"  The correct English spelling is "disc

CDs = compact discs
floppies = floppy disks (diskettes, though I imagine a few raised eyebrows when people used this antedeluvian style :P)
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Re: Words I hate

In general, as verbs,
Affect is when you do something to something.
Effect is when you cause something to happen.
eg
If I painted a door blue, I've affected its colour, but effected a colour change.
Compare these two:
A holiday may effect his return to work
A holiday may affect his return to work
As nouns
Affect is the (usually 'psychological') cause for something to happen - think of affectation
Effect is the result of something having happened
Generally, "affect" is used a lot less as a noun than "effect" is used as a verb.
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Re: Words I hate

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CDs = compact discs
floppies = floppy disks (diskettes, though I imagine a few raised eyebrows when people used this antedeluvian style :P)

The reason for the difference, is that CD's were used for audio before the computer fraternity got hold of them, so English spelling was applied.  Floppy discs were never used for anything else but computers, ergo the yanks managed to distort the spelling before anyone else had a chance to use them. Undecided
The only time disc is spelled d i s k is in yankieland  or in computing.
John
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Re: Words I hate

Quote from: hulls
I know I'm not going to win this one but:
collective nouns are singular

It's interesting to see the usage when the collection is the empty set.
"None of these bottles is empty"
"Not one of these bottles is empty"
"None of these bottles are empty"
"Not one of these bottles are empty"
"How many bottles are empty?"
"None is"
"Not one is"
"None are"
"Not one are"
(The confusion generally stemming from whether the subject is the bottles or the collection thereof, and that "none" can be split as "not one")
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Re: Words I hate

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Quote from: hulls
I know I'm not going to win this one but:
collective nouns are singular

It's interesting to see the usage when the collection is the empty set.
"None of these bottles is empty"
"Not one of these bottles is empty"
"None of these bottles are empty"
"Not one of these bottles are empty"
"How many bottles are empty?"
"None is"
"Not one is"
"None are"
"Not one are"
(The confusion generally stemming from whether the subject is the bottles or the collection thereof, and that "none" can be split as "not one")

Hi
I'm sorry, where was the collective noun? Huh
The bottles are empty, the bottle bank is empty
(so who's got all the bottles?)
The government is incompetent.
MP's are incompetent.
John
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Re: Words I hate

Quote from: hulls
MP's are incompetent.

MP's what?
Or do you mean MP  is are incompetent?
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Re: Words I hate

My sincere apologies.  I can't believe I made that mistake.  Embarrassed
But now I think of it, how would you make MP plural?
M'sP would seem to be the obvious (Members of Parliament), but it sounds a little odd.
Answers on a post please (but maybe that needs a new thread).  Now it's getting complicated, and I'm getting a headache. Huh
John
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Re: Words I hate

Quote from: hulls
But now I think of it, how would you make MP plural?
M'sP would seem to be the obvious (Members of Parliament), but it sounds a little odd.

Generally abbreviations and acronyms follow the same rules as a standalone noun ie no apostrophe unless indicating a brevity or possessive.
eg
There are six MPs.
The MP's car was a perk.
The MP's a politician.
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Re: Words I hate

I always thought that the plural of forum was forums, but more and more I see fora being used. I coming to really dislike that word.
[quote="Concise Oxford Dictionary"]forum /"fO;r@m/
· n. (pl. forums)
1 a meeting or medium for an exchange of views.
2 chiefly N. Amer. a court or tribunal.
3 (pl. fora) (in an ancient Roman city) a public square or marketplace used for judicial and other business.
– ORIGIN ME: from L., lit. ‘what is out of doors’.
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Re: Words I hate

I followed the link and was pleased to see forums listed as the plural of forum. See also
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/forums
askoxford.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum
[Moderator's note by billbo: linky changed to over size url]
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Re: Words I hate

Hi
I'm not an English teacher, but had an English teacher who was a real stickler, and have lived with the aftermath ever since.
I think you'll find that either fora or forums are equally acceptable.  Years ago, only fora would have been right, but the language moves on.
Similarly with syllabus.  The plural can be either sylabbusses (which always sounds like a gas leak to me) or syllabi.
Now, what's the plural of euphonium? Is it Euphonii?
And would you refer to one Nicholas, and two Nicholi? Grin
John
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Re: Words I hate

One thing I really hate is the word 'Solutions' in a company name...they tell you*nothing* about the company 75 companies all with solutions in their name...
"vehicle Finance Solutions" - yep - they do what they say, but they don't need that word to tell you that! It'd be like Barclays Bank calling themself Barclays Banking Solutions
"Sparkling Clean Solutions" - hmm...you'd think they sell some top-notch liquid cleaning products or maybe ultra sterile liquids for cleaning contacts, but no, they solve your cleaning problems - they're a cleaner.
"A Solutions Ltd" - need I say more...
"Clear Solutions Ltd" - another one giving the idea they sell water, vodka, meths, you name it - as long as it's clear. The name is so clear in fact that they've had to add - in brackets - "Wealth & Tax Management", just to make it even clearer what they actually do! What a mouthful! "Clear Solutions (Wealth & Tax Management) Ltd"
Pah