Will post-Brexit outworking be as long as Henry VIII's Popexit?
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Will post-Brexit outworking be as long as Henry VIII's Popexit?
27-09-2016 6:50 PM
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Telegraph on Saturday had a piece that makes comparison of Henry VIII's separation from Catholic Europe with the present decision to leave the EU. Enjoy!
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27-09-2016 8:08 PM - edited 27-09-2016 9:37 PM
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Actually, the last time England defied the European order in such in a drastic fashion was in 1940 when the National Socialists had overrun europe and together with collaborationist France under Philippe Pétain, sought to forge a united Europe with England separated, and the Americas in their cross hairs from a fascist military alliance under a Catholic majority alongside Spain and Italy.
Sound familiar? It certainly does to me, and if anybody doubts that I suggest you find time to watch 'The Sorrow and the Pity' (Le Chagrin et la Pitié) a two-part 1969 documentary film by Marcel Ophuls.
A sober warning for Brexiteers says this Evans-Pritchard? - more like yet another close call against foreign domination and influence if you ask me..... and the other 52% that voted to leave that bureaucratic and controlling shambles.
https://www.rt.com/news/350976-germany-white-paper-military-eu/
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27-09-2016 9:07 PM
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Only 2 posts to degenerate into mentioning/blaming the Nazis.
Is this a record?
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Re: Will post-Brexit outworking be as long as Henry VIII's Popexit?
27-09-2016 9:18 PM - edited 27-09-2016 9:19 PM
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Apart from yourself, who mentioned the Nazis?
Me, I purposely avoided invoking Godwin's law.
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27-09-2016 9:20 PM
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Re: Will post-Brexit outworking be as long as Henry VIII's Popexit?
27-09-2016 9:37 PM - edited 27-09-2016 9:39 PM
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@Luzern I think Evans-Pritchard nailed it. The parallels are very interesting, Henry's actions freed us from the Hapsbergs the Papacy and the Spanish domination of the Americas and kicked off the secularisation of wealth as the castles and cathedrals became privately owned land and domestic country houses. Britain and the Netherlands became the new world centres of wealth generation.
Here we go again breaking away from the European model to one that suits our temperament and adventurous spirit!
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do be do be do - Sinatra
Re: Will post-Brexit outworking be as long as Henry VIII's Popexit?
27-09-2016 9:46 PM
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Well he nailed the argument, but did he come down on one side of the other? I'm not sure he did.
Despite Henry dying a Catholic, I detect the hand of Lutheranism m'self.
Nice piece though.
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27-09-2016 9:58 PM - edited 27-09-2016 9:59 PM
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No worries Henry VIII released a lot of Church resources into the economy but it was in the Time of his daughter Elizabeth that we started our overseas enterprises initially funded through piracy but we never looked back.
This time around we don't have to learn anything new, just revert to what we did 40 years ago. And we are already the 5th economy in the world and have the world biggest city for trade.
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27-09-2016 10:02 PM
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What did we do in 1976?
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27-09-2016 10:17 PM
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@VileReynard wrote:
What did we do in 1976?
1975 the referendum to stay in the EEC before it became the EU and we majored on trade both inside and outside
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27-09-2016 11:37 PM
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@PeterLoftus wrote:
No worries Henry VIII released a lot of Church resources into the economy but it was in the Time of his daughter Elizabeth that we started our overseas enterprises initially funded through piracy but we never looked back.
This time around we don't have to learn anything new, just revert to what we did 40 years ago. And we are already the 5th economy in the world and have the world biggest city for trade.
I've got a vision of Fairbeard Johnson with his foxy sidekick standing on the deck, cutlass in hand, dagger in mouth ready to board a container ship to seize the cargo bound for anywhere but UK
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27-09-2016 11:58 PM
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